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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 00:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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			<dc:creator>George Gurley</dc:creator>
				
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft" src="http://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/050806_article_world.jpg?w=300&h=222" />HILLY: George has been <i>really</i> mad at me. Everything I do seems to frustrate him&mdash;even running water, apparently.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: How do we define &ldquo;frustrate&rdquo;?</p>
<p>HILLY: He&rsquo;s trying to be as <i>tolerant</i> and patient as possible, but he lets it build up and all of a sudden he just &hellip; um &hellip; well, he gets <i>upset</i> if I&rsquo;m trying to clean or iron my clothes&mdash;</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: Is that true, George?</p>
<p>GEORGE: Well, there has been some turbulence, and let me address that&mdash;but let&rsquo;s start off with last night. Took her to Caf&eacute; Luxembourg&mdash;$120. Would have been more had she ordered that blueberry sorbet. Then we got home, and that&rsquo;s when she went into this frenzied state of activity&mdash;started off with a shower, then escalated. It&rsquo;s like there&rsquo;s never <i>not</i> a sound, whether it&rsquo;s vacuuming, ironing, polishing the <i>teapot</i>&mdash;that was the one that set me off. She was really scrubbing that teapot. Caught her doing that. Then there&rsquo;s walking around in flip-flops&mdash;snap, snap, snap&mdash;because she says the sisal rug, what, cuts up your feet? </p>
<p>HILLY: No, there are these little splinters in it that get into my feet, and they stay in there for 12 hours. And it <i>hurts</i>.</p>
<p>GEORGE: Even when she&rsquo;s &ldquo;sitting still,&rdquo; she&rsquo;s not sitting still&mdash;her feet are moving, jittering. [GEORGE <i>demonstrates</i>.] I know I&rsquo;m sounding unreasonable. She&rsquo;s been bending over backwards and walking on eggshells, but she&rsquo;s driving me bananas.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: Why do you think you&rsquo;re being unreasonable?</p>
<p>GEORGE: Because this is all normal stuff. I&rsquo;m very sensitive to noise. I think I have tinnitus or something where you hear things&mdash;</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: Tinnitus is ringing in the ears.</p>
<p>GEORGE: It&rsquo;s not that, but something like that, where I hear everything times 10. I&rsquo;m complaining about her, but just let me get it all out, because I think I might be unable to live with someone&mdash;anyone&mdash;in a small space, except for a cat. Hilly sometimes has kind of a nervous energy, and that makes <i>me</i> nervous. It happened last night. We&rsquo;d been out to dinner, I&rsquo;d had some rum&mdash;I don&rsquo;t know, maybe it was I&rsquo;d been working all day and I&rsquo;d had some stimulants throughout the day &hellip;.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: Some stimulants?</p>
<p>GEORGE: Coffee and cigarettes and maybe a couple nibbles of Ritalin. Like one. Half. A halfie.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: How big a Ritalin?</p>
<p>GEORGE: Oh, they&rsquo;re little white things. It&rsquo;s like a cup of coffee. So we were watching <i>King Kong</i>, and Hilly was wearing her negligee, and&mdash;is this going to embarrass you? </p>
<p>[<i>Silence</i>.]</p>
<p>GEORGE: She just looked great. The right part of the top had fallen down&mdash;</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: Which <i>King Kong</i>?</p>
<p>GEORGE: The third one. The Jessica Lange one was better.  </p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: The Fay Wray is a classic. So Hilly was reminding you of the Fay Wray character?</p>
<p>GEORGE: No, she was reminding me of a <i>Playboy</i> Playmate from 1973. So we had great, great sex in the middle of the movie. So I&rsquo;m relaxed&mdash;that&rsquo;s one way to get me less stressed out! Last night I&rsquo;d gotten her a two-liter Diet Coke, and this morning I wake up to find that she had guzzled half of it. A whole <i>liter</i> of Diet Coke. Reaction? Normal? That&rsquo;s a lot. </p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: You&rsquo;re telling me you&rsquo;re doing Nicorette, coffee, smoking, Ritalin, and you&rsquo;re worried&mdash;</p>
<p>GEORGE: Point taken. O.K., forget that. She&rsquo;s been sneaking drinks. I went up to her cubbyhole, and she has the remnants of Diet Coke and rum in glasses. So then I&rsquo;m walking back to my room and I see my wallet, and I just knew there was money missing. What I do normally is bring my wallet into my room. I have to hide my wallet. I looked in there and there was nothing left. I called her up and said, &ldquo;You took $40,&rdquo; and she said, &ldquo;Twenty.&rdquo; Now tell me the truth&mdash;20 or 40?</p>
<p>HILLY: Twenty!</p>
<p>GEORGE: O.K. Can we try to keep the focus on Hilly this session? I get, I respect the point that I should be on a mood stabilizer and &ldquo;How long is Hilly going to put up with me?&rdquo; and the co-dependency thing&mdash;but Hilly, can you admit that you have eaten and guzzled other people&rsquo;s food and drinks over the years?</p>
<p>HILLY: Yes.</p>
<p>GEORGE: So you&rsquo;re notorious for doing that?</p>
<p>HILLY: I don&rsquo;t know if I would say &ldquo;notorious,&rdquo; but &hellip;.</p>
<p>GEORGE: Not to give you a hard time, but did you also recently admit that you have driven people crazy over the years?</p>
<p>HILLY: Two people come to mind, who I think are extremely intolerant people: my mother and my host father when I was an exchange student. Who was a Nazi.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: You&rsquo;re saying that Hilly is driving <i>you</i> crazy?</p>
<p>GEORGE: That&rsquo;s another question I was going to ask: Hilly, am I driving you crazy? </p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: She started out tonight saying she thought that you were being patient.</p>
<p>HILLY: I think you are being patient, but the thing I just don&rsquo;t understand is why you&rsquo;re not more anxious to <i>move</i>. Find a place that&rsquo;s bigger. When I do all these nit-picking things, like trying to clean, it&rsquo;s in an attempt to make it more comfortable during the time that we&rsquo;re there together.</p>
<p>GEORGE: You&rsquo;re right&mdash;we agreed we were going to look for apartments, and I backed out of it twice. However, let&rsquo;s stick with one thing: You don&rsquo;t need to be polishing and scrubbing a teapot and the silverware.</p>
<p>HILLY: The silver was mine, and I was doing that because it was tarnished. You complained that you&rsquo;ve been running out of forks and spoons. So I thought if I polished these and washed them&mdash;</p>
<p>GEORGE: You&rsquo;ve been worried all day about the dishes in the sink. She sent me an e-mail about it.</p>
<p>HILLY: Because he said three days ago that I couldn&rsquo;t do any more cleaning. He doesn&rsquo;t want to hear running water.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: What&rsquo;s wrong with wanting to clean up?</p>
<p>GEORGE: I just think that all of this <i>activity</i> in general, all this <i>constant</i> movement&mdash;I don&rsquo;t know if it&rsquo;s Prozac-related or O.C.D. or nervous energy &hellip;.  </p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: It seems like the stuff you&rsquo;re complaining about with her seems normal&mdash;that she would want to keep the apartment clean.</p>
<p>GEORGE: It&rsquo;s the <i>constant</i> noise and fidgeting&mdash;</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: Who wants dishes in the sink? That&rsquo;s not even <i>sanitary</i>.</p>
<p>GEORGE: Constant fidgeting makes me nervous.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: She&rsquo;s not fidgeting now.</p>
<p>GEORGE: You&rsquo;re seeing her right <i>now</i>, after work, she&rsquo;s in her nice business outfit&mdash;</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: You&rsquo;re fidgeting more than she is!</p>
<p>GEORGE: O.K. Fine. I can relax, I can sit still&mdash;she can&rsquo;t sit still in our apartment for more than eight minutes. She gets up at least every eight minutes. Wait, let me <i>finish</i>&mdash;you don&rsquo;t see her at 11 p.m., when she&rsquo;s doing this, that and the other thing &hellip;.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: Well, Hilly, is this all true? </p>
<p>HILLY: Well, yes, especially because I&rsquo;m basically sitting at my desk all day, so by the time I get home, I want to do stuff. Plus I&rsquo;m not completely settled in. </p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: You&rsquo;re living in a messy, crammed space.</p>
<p>GEORGE: I&rsquo;d think after a hard day of work you&rsquo;d like to unwind, sit still, relax.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: Maybe it&rsquo;s hard for her to relax in a mess.</p>
<p>HILLY: That&rsquo;s exactly it. I can&rsquo;t. I sit down and I can&rsquo;t focus on something because I see something else that draws my attention, like a pile of <i>stuff</i>.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: Could you wear something to block out the sound?</p>
<p>GEORGE: I&rsquo;m not quite getting this across. The other night I had my headphones on, I was transcribing in my office, and she crept in, hid behind the dresser, then jumped out and yelled &ldquo;Boo!&rdquo; I almost had a heart attack.</p>
<p>[HILLY <i>and</i> DR. SELMAN <i>laugh</i>.]</p>
<p>GEORGE: Remember how she said she was the teacher&rsquo;s pet in school? And she was a spoiled tattletale? She really was Rhoda in <i>The Bad Seed</i>. Rhoda was a real sweet and charming girl, but she was a serial killer. You don&rsquo;t see her at 11:30 p.m. when she&rsquo;s had her Sancerre. All this nervous energy, and then all of a sudden this woozy&mdash;</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: I hate to tell you this, but she seems relaxed by comparison to you.</p>
<p>GEORGE: Well, I&rsquo;m talking and we&rsquo;re having an animated conversation and I&rsquo;m eating Nicorette and drinking coffee&mdash;I want to get all this <i>out</i>. </p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: I think you need to find out how much Ritalin you&rsquo;re taking. Look at the bottle.</p>
<p>GEORGE: It&rsquo;s a little tiny white pill, the smallest dosage.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: The smallest dosage is the <i>yellow</i> pill.</p>
<p>GEORGE: Where were we? There&rsquo;s been some turbulence. The other night, it was the same sort of fidgeting, and I just walked out.</p>
<p>HILLY: I asked you if it was O.K. if I ironed&mdash;</p>
<p>GEORGE: We were watching this funny satire British TV show, and Hilly was ironing for <i>an hour straight</i> right behind me&mdash;</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: But she <i>asked</i> you if it was O.K.</p>
<p>GEORGE: I thought it would be O.K., but it just didn&rsquo;t stop, and she did it like she was working <i>out</i>. </p>
<p>HILLY: Wait, I just have to bring this up before I forget it. That same day he told me, &ldquo;Enough with the cleaning! I don&rsquo;t want to hear running water!&rdquo;&mdash;and then last night he yelled, &ldquo;Why haven&rsquo;t these <i>dishes</i> been washed?!&rdquo;</p>
<p>[<i>Silence</i>.]</p>
<p>GEORGE: Do you think any of this could be Prozac-related? Does that stir up all her energy in any way?</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: Do you want to talk to Dr. Lamm about this? If it&rsquo;s even a problem? You know, this is George&rsquo;s perception.</p>
<p>GEORGE: We did talk to Dr. Lamm about the drinking, and he agreed with me&mdash;that when your girlfriend drinks Sancerre every single night, it can be a sexual turnoff.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: You just told me you found her so terribly attractive while you were watching TV.</p>
<p>GEORGE: Yes, but it should happen more. So I&rsquo;m wondering if I should say, &ldquo;Look, I&rsquo;m really sorry, but if you have more than two drinks, I can&rsquo;t have sex.&rdquo;</p>
<p>HILLY: Well, when I have people constantly criticizing me and shouting at me and not wanting to listen to my opinion about things, then I&rsquo;m not sexually turned on and I turn to my other lover, the bottle of wine. </p>
<p>GEORGE: Uh, I think you turn to that no matter what.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: You say you drink because of his hostility and disinterest?</p>
<p>HILLY: Yes, sure, a lot of the time.</p>
<p>GEORGE: Oh, come on! You&rsquo;ve averaged five drinks a night for the past I don&rsquo;t know how many years &hellip; and you&rsquo;ve been on Prozac for 10 years. I don&rsquo;t mean to be a dick, O.K., but wouldn&rsquo;t it be productive to talk about this? Because here&rsquo;s the deal: You want to get engaged, O.K., and all this stuff&mdash;I&rsquo;m totally O.K. with us getting a two-bedroom apartment. As far as getting engaged, there&rsquo;s no <i>way</i> I can do that if there&rsquo;s that much alcohol.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: Why don&rsquo;t you both quit drinking?</p>
<p>GEORGE: I&rsquo;m going get in trouble for saying this, but I think I can drink and be coherent. I can have two drinks and&mdash;</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: I don&rsquo;t hear any evidence that she&rsquo;s not coherent.</p>
<p>GEORGE: I hear the white wine in her voice, or that alcohol-Prozac mixture in her voice, around 11 p.m. She sounds drunk, and I don&rsquo;t want to hear it even after three drinks.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: The original complaint was that she fidgets, moves around the apartment and makes noise, is distracting, and you have trouble with that. Now this is something else.</p>
<p>GEORGE: I would also like it if she would take <i>cooking</i> classes.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: What does <i>that</i> got to do with it?</p>
<p>GEORGE: That&rsquo;s important if we&rsquo;re going to be engaged.</p>
<p>HILLY: I can&rsquo;t cook if I can&rsquo;t clean the kitchen, because there&rsquo;s nowhere to cook. </p>
<p>GEORGE: I don&rsquo;t want to upset you, but the spaghetti you made me&mdash;</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: O.K., I think we&rsquo;re a little bit off the topic here&mdash;</p>
<p>GEORGE: &mdash;was soupy.</p>
<p>HILLY: That&rsquo;s fine. And it&rsquo;s O.K. It was from a jar anyway.</p>
<p>GEORGE: I&rsquo;ll go to cooking classes with you!</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: Well, if you&rsquo;re willing to go to cooking classes with her, why don&rsquo;t you go to A.A. with her?</p>
<p>GEORGE: Um. Want to?</p>
<p>HILLY: No. Yes, sure. I don&rsquo;t know. I&rsquo;d rather find a larger apartment.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: It just sounds absurd that someone who drinks as much as you would be critical of her for drinking.</p>
<p>GEORGE: Some people, when they stay at home&mdash;I may do some binge drinking, but&mdash; when they stay at home, they can have one or two drinks. She&rsquo;s a different kind of drinker, and it makes her go <i>inner</i>. It makes her become less present. I can&rsquo;t communicate with her.  </p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: I would like some input from Hilly. You&rsquo;ve been primarily silent about all of this. Any thoughts? I don&rsquo;t hear you saying, &ldquo;I get home at night and I&rsquo;m agitated and I&rsquo;m fidgety and I can&rsquo;t sit still, and I have to go in and clean dishes or silverware or clean the apartment or rearrange stuff.&rdquo; And you&rsquo;re not presenting that to me as a problem. He&rsquo;s presenting that as a problem that <i>you</i> have that bothers <i>him</i>. You are not presenting it as a problem at all. </p>
<p>HILLY: My problem is, I can&rsquo;t take care of those anxious feelings. I can&rsquo;t finish cleaning the floor in the bathroom because the next morning I have to get ready in the <i>bathroom</i> with the door shut, so basically I have to put my handbag and my cosmetics and everything down on the surface that&rsquo;s not clean, like where people have gone to the bathroom, and it&rsquo;s <i>disgusting</i>. And I&rsquo;m not even allowed to mop the floor in there! It&rsquo;s frustrating. So we&rsquo;re sitting there watching a movie, and all I can think about is: &ldquo;Oh gosh, tomorrow morning I can&rsquo;t wait to put my Chlo&eacute; linen skirt that was however many hundreds of dollars I bought years ago down on this, like, pubic-hair-covered floor.&rdquo; It&rsquo;s disgusting!</p>
<p>GEORGE: Ha ha ha ha ha. </p>
<p>[<i>To be continued</i>.]</p>
<p><i>&mdash;George Gurley</i></p>
<p><b>Prior Articles:</b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.observer.com/20060501/20060501_Sara_Vilkomerson_thecity_newyorkworld.asp">George and Hilly published 05/01/06</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/20060417/20060417_George_Gurley_thecity_newyorkworld.asp">George and Hilly published 04/17/06</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/20060403/20060403_George_Gurley_thecity_newyorkworld.asp">George and Hilly published 04/03/06</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/20060320/20060320_George_Gurley_thecity_newyorkworld.asp">George and Hilly published 03/20/06</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/20060206/20060206_George_Gurley_thecity_newyorkworld.asp">George and Hilly published 02/6/06</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/20060206/20060123_George_Gurley_thecity_newyorkworld012306.asp">George and Hilly published 01/23/06</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/20060206/20060116_George_Gurley_thecity_newyorkworld.asp">George and Hilly published 01/16/06</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/thecity_newyorkworld122605.asp">George and Hilly published 12/26/05</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/thecity_newyorkworld111405.asp">George and Hilly published 11/14/05</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/thecity_newyorkworld110705.asp">George and Hilly published 11/07/05</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/thecity_newyorkworld102405.asp">George and Hilly published 10/24/05</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/thecity_newyorkworld101705.asp">George and Hilly published 10/17/05</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/thecity_newyorkworld101005.asp">George and Hilly published 10/10/05</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/thecity_newyorkworld100305.asp">George and Hilly published 10/03/05</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/thecity_newyorkworld092605.asp">George &rsquo;n&rsquo; Hilly, Back in Couples, Turn on the Doc published 09/26/05</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/thecity_newyorkworld082905.asp">But Should We Get Married? Part III published 08/29/05</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/thecity_newyorkworld081505.asp">But Should We Get Married? published 08/15/05</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/thecity_newyorkworld080805.asp">Should I Get Married? My Hilly Joining Me In Couples Session published 08/08/05</a></p>
]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft" src="http://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/050806_article_world.jpg?w=300&h=222" />HILLY: George has been <i>really</i> mad at me. Everything I do seems to frustrate him&mdash;even running water, apparently.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: How do we define &ldquo;frustrate&rdquo;?</p>
<p>HILLY: He&rsquo;s trying to be as <i>tolerant</i> and patient as possible, but he lets it build up and all of a sudden he just &hellip; um &hellip; well, he gets <i>upset</i> if I&rsquo;m trying to clean or iron my clothes&mdash;</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: Is that true, George?</p>
<p>GEORGE: Well, there has been some turbulence, and let me address that&mdash;but let&rsquo;s start off with last night. Took her to Caf&eacute; Luxembourg&mdash;$120. Would have been more had she ordered that blueberry sorbet. Then we got home, and that&rsquo;s when she went into this frenzied state of activity&mdash;started off with a shower, then escalated. It&rsquo;s like there&rsquo;s never <i>not</i> a sound, whether it&rsquo;s vacuuming, ironing, polishing the <i>teapot</i>&mdash;that was the one that set me off. She was really scrubbing that teapot. Caught her doing that. Then there&rsquo;s walking around in flip-flops&mdash;snap, snap, snap&mdash;because she says the sisal rug, what, cuts up your feet? </p>
<p>HILLY: No, there are these little splinters in it that get into my feet, and they stay in there for 12 hours. And it <i>hurts</i>.</p>
<p>GEORGE: Even when she&rsquo;s &ldquo;sitting still,&rdquo; she&rsquo;s not sitting still&mdash;her feet are moving, jittering. [GEORGE <i>demonstrates</i>.] I know I&rsquo;m sounding unreasonable. She&rsquo;s been bending over backwards and walking on eggshells, but she&rsquo;s driving me bananas.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: Why do you think you&rsquo;re being unreasonable?</p>
<p>GEORGE: Because this is all normal stuff. I&rsquo;m very sensitive to noise. I think I have tinnitus or something where you hear things&mdash;</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: Tinnitus is ringing in the ears.</p>
<p>GEORGE: It&rsquo;s not that, but something like that, where I hear everything times 10. I&rsquo;m complaining about her, but just let me get it all out, because I think I might be unable to live with someone&mdash;anyone&mdash;in a small space, except for a cat. Hilly sometimes has kind of a nervous energy, and that makes <i>me</i> nervous. It happened last night. We&rsquo;d been out to dinner, I&rsquo;d had some rum&mdash;I don&rsquo;t know, maybe it was I&rsquo;d been working all day and I&rsquo;d had some stimulants throughout the day &hellip;.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: Some stimulants?</p>
<p>GEORGE: Coffee and cigarettes and maybe a couple nibbles of Ritalin. Like one. Half. A halfie.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: How big a Ritalin?</p>
<p>GEORGE: Oh, they&rsquo;re little white things. It&rsquo;s like a cup of coffee. So we were watching <i>King Kong</i>, and Hilly was wearing her negligee, and&mdash;is this going to embarrass you? </p>
<p>[<i>Silence</i>.]</p>
<p>GEORGE: She just looked great. The right part of the top had fallen down&mdash;</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: Which <i>King Kong</i>?</p>
<p>GEORGE: The third one. The Jessica Lange one was better.  </p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: The Fay Wray is a classic. So Hilly was reminding you of the Fay Wray character?</p>
<p>GEORGE: No, she was reminding me of a <i>Playboy</i> Playmate from 1973. So we had great, great sex in the middle of the movie. So I&rsquo;m relaxed&mdash;that&rsquo;s one way to get me less stressed out! Last night I&rsquo;d gotten her a two-liter Diet Coke, and this morning I wake up to find that she had guzzled half of it. A whole <i>liter</i> of Diet Coke. Reaction? Normal? That&rsquo;s a lot. </p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: You&rsquo;re telling me you&rsquo;re doing Nicorette, coffee, smoking, Ritalin, and you&rsquo;re worried&mdash;</p>
<p>GEORGE: Point taken. O.K., forget that. She&rsquo;s been sneaking drinks. I went up to her cubbyhole, and she has the remnants of Diet Coke and rum in glasses. So then I&rsquo;m walking back to my room and I see my wallet, and I just knew there was money missing. What I do normally is bring my wallet into my room. I have to hide my wallet. I looked in there and there was nothing left. I called her up and said, &ldquo;You took $40,&rdquo; and she said, &ldquo;Twenty.&rdquo; Now tell me the truth&mdash;20 or 40?</p>
<p>HILLY: Twenty!</p>
<p>GEORGE: O.K. Can we try to keep the focus on Hilly this session? I get, I respect the point that I should be on a mood stabilizer and &ldquo;How long is Hilly going to put up with me?&rdquo; and the co-dependency thing&mdash;but Hilly, can you admit that you have eaten and guzzled other people&rsquo;s food and drinks over the years?</p>
<p>HILLY: Yes.</p>
<p>GEORGE: So you&rsquo;re notorious for doing that?</p>
<p>HILLY: I don&rsquo;t know if I would say &ldquo;notorious,&rdquo; but &hellip;.</p>
<p>GEORGE: Not to give you a hard time, but did you also recently admit that you have driven people crazy over the years?</p>
<p>HILLY: Two people come to mind, who I think are extremely intolerant people: my mother and my host father when I was an exchange student. Who was a Nazi.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: You&rsquo;re saying that Hilly is driving <i>you</i> crazy?</p>
<p>GEORGE: That&rsquo;s another question I was going to ask: Hilly, am I driving you crazy? </p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: She started out tonight saying she thought that you were being patient.</p>
<p>HILLY: I think you are being patient, but the thing I just don&rsquo;t understand is why you&rsquo;re not more anxious to <i>move</i>. Find a place that&rsquo;s bigger. When I do all these nit-picking things, like trying to clean, it&rsquo;s in an attempt to make it more comfortable during the time that we&rsquo;re there together.</p>
<p>GEORGE: You&rsquo;re right&mdash;we agreed we were going to look for apartments, and I backed out of it twice. However, let&rsquo;s stick with one thing: You don&rsquo;t need to be polishing and scrubbing a teapot and the silverware.</p>
<p>HILLY: The silver was mine, and I was doing that because it was tarnished. You complained that you&rsquo;ve been running out of forks and spoons. So I thought if I polished these and washed them&mdash;</p>
<p>GEORGE: You&rsquo;ve been worried all day about the dishes in the sink. She sent me an e-mail about it.</p>
<p>HILLY: Because he said three days ago that I couldn&rsquo;t do any more cleaning. He doesn&rsquo;t want to hear running water.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: What&rsquo;s wrong with wanting to clean up?</p>
<p>GEORGE: I just think that all of this <i>activity</i> in general, all this <i>constant</i> movement&mdash;I don&rsquo;t know if it&rsquo;s Prozac-related or O.C.D. or nervous energy &hellip;.  </p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: It seems like the stuff you&rsquo;re complaining about with her seems normal&mdash;that she would want to keep the apartment clean.</p>
<p>GEORGE: It&rsquo;s the <i>constant</i> noise and fidgeting&mdash;</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: Who wants dishes in the sink? That&rsquo;s not even <i>sanitary</i>.</p>
<p>GEORGE: Constant fidgeting makes me nervous.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: She&rsquo;s not fidgeting now.</p>
<p>GEORGE: You&rsquo;re seeing her right <i>now</i>, after work, she&rsquo;s in her nice business outfit&mdash;</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: You&rsquo;re fidgeting more than she is!</p>
<p>GEORGE: O.K. Fine. I can relax, I can sit still&mdash;she can&rsquo;t sit still in our apartment for more than eight minutes. She gets up at least every eight minutes. Wait, let me <i>finish</i>&mdash;you don&rsquo;t see her at 11 p.m., when she&rsquo;s doing this, that and the other thing &hellip;.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: Well, Hilly, is this all true? </p>
<p>HILLY: Well, yes, especially because I&rsquo;m basically sitting at my desk all day, so by the time I get home, I want to do stuff. Plus I&rsquo;m not completely settled in. </p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: You&rsquo;re living in a messy, crammed space.</p>
<p>GEORGE: I&rsquo;d think after a hard day of work you&rsquo;d like to unwind, sit still, relax.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: Maybe it&rsquo;s hard for her to relax in a mess.</p>
<p>HILLY: That&rsquo;s exactly it. I can&rsquo;t. I sit down and I can&rsquo;t focus on something because I see something else that draws my attention, like a pile of <i>stuff</i>.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: Could you wear something to block out the sound?</p>
<p>GEORGE: I&rsquo;m not quite getting this across. The other night I had my headphones on, I was transcribing in my office, and she crept in, hid behind the dresser, then jumped out and yelled &ldquo;Boo!&rdquo; I almost had a heart attack.</p>
<p>[HILLY <i>and</i> DR. SELMAN <i>laugh</i>.]</p>
<p>GEORGE: Remember how she said she was the teacher&rsquo;s pet in school? And she was a spoiled tattletale? She really was Rhoda in <i>The Bad Seed</i>. Rhoda was a real sweet and charming girl, but she was a serial killer. You don&rsquo;t see her at 11:30 p.m. when she&rsquo;s had her Sancerre. All this nervous energy, and then all of a sudden this woozy&mdash;</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: I hate to tell you this, but she seems relaxed by comparison to you.</p>
<p>GEORGE: Well, I&rsquo;m talking and we&rsquo;re having an animated conversation and I&rsquo;m eating Nicorette and drinking coffee&mdash;I want to get all this <i>out</i>. </p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: I think you need to find out how much Ritalin you&rsquo;re taking. Look at the bottle.</p>
<p>GEORGE: It&rsquo;s a little tiny white pill, the smallest dosage.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: The smallest dosage is the <i>yellow</i> pill.</p>
<p>GEORGE: Where were we? There&rsquo;s been some turbulence. The other night, it was the same sort of fidgeting, and I just walked out.</p>
<p>HILLY: I asked you if it was O.K. if I ironed&mdash;</p>
<p>GEORGE: We were watching this funny satire British TV show, and Hilly was ironing for <i>an hour straight</i> right behind me&mdash;</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: But she <i>asked</i> you if it was O.K.</p>
<p>GEORGE: I thought it would be O.K., but it just didn&rsquo;t stop, and she did it like she was working <i>out</i>. </p>
<p>HILLY: Wait, I just have to bring this up before I forget it. That same day he told me, &ldquo;Enough with the cleaning! I don&rsquo;t want to hear running water!&rdquo;&mdash;and then last night he yelled, &ldquo;Why haven&rsquo;t these <i>dishes</i> been washed?!&rdquo;</p>
<p>[<i>Silence</i>.]</p>
<p>GEORGE: Do you think any of this could be Prozac-related? Does that stir up all her energy in any way?</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: Do you want to talk to Dr. Lamm about this? If it&rsquo;s even a problem? You know, this is George&rsquo;s perception.</p>
<p>GEORGE: We did talk to Dr. Lamm about the drinking, and he agreed with me&mdash;that when your girlfriend drinks Sancerre every single night, it can be a sexual turnoff.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: You just told me you found her so terribly attractive while you were watching TV.</p>
<p>GEORGE: Yes, but it should happen more. So I&rsquo;m wondering if I should say, &ldquo;Look, I&rsquo;m really sorry, but if you have more than two drinks, I can&rsquo;t have sex.&rdquo;</p>
<p>HILLY: Well, when I have people constantly criticizing me and shouting at me and not wanting to listen to my opinion about things, then I&rsquo;m not sexually turned on and I turn to my other lover, the bottle of wine. </p>
<p>GEORGE: Uh, I think you turn to that no matter what.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: You say you drink because of his hostility and disinterest?</p>
<p>HILLY: Yes, sure, a lot of the time.</p>
<p>GEORGE: Oh, come on! You&rsquo;ve averaged five drinks a night for the past I don&rsquo;t know how many years &hellip; and you&rsquo;ve been on Prozac for 10 years. I don&rsquo;t mean to be a dick, O.K., but wouldn&rsquo;t it be productive to talk about this? Because here&rsquo;s the deal: You want to get engaged, O.K., and all this stuff&mdash;I&rsquo;m totally O.K. with us getting a two-bedroom apartment. As far as getting engaged, there&rsquo;s no <i>way</i> I can do that if there&rsquo;s that much alcohol.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: Why don&rsquo;t you both quit drinking?</p>
<p>GEORGE: I&rsquo;m going get in trouble for saying this, but I think I can drink and be coherent. I can have two drinks and&mdash;</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: I don&rsquo;t hear any evidence that she&rsquo;s not coherent.</p>
<p>GEORGE: I hear the white wine in her voice, or that alcohol-Prozac mixture in her voice, around 11 p.m. She sounds drunk, and I don&rsquo;t want to hear it even after three drinks.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: The original complaint was that she fidgets, moves around the apartment and makes noise, is distracting, and you have trouble with that. Now this is something else.</p>
<p>GEORGE: I would also like it if she would take <i>cooking</i> classes.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: What does <i>that</i> got to do with it?</p>
<p>GEORGE: That&rsquo;s important if we&rsquo;re going to be engaged.</p>
<p>HILLY: I can&rsquo;t cook if I can&rsquo;t clean the kitchen, because there&rsquo;s nowhere to cook. </p>
<p>GEORGE: I don&rsquo;t want to upset you, but the spaghetti you made me&mdash;</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: O.K., I think we&rsquo;re a little bit off the topic here&mdash;</p>
<p>GEORGE: &mdash;was soupy.</p>
<p>HILLY: That&rsquo;s fine. And it&rsquo;s O.K. It was from a jar anyway.</p>
<p>GEORGE: I&rsquo;ll go to cooking classes with you!</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: Well, if you&rsquo;re willing to go to cooking classes with her, why don&rsquo;t you go to A.A. with her?</p>
<p>GEORGE: Um. Want to?</p>
<p>HILLY: No. Yes, sure. I don&rsquo;t know. I&rsquo;d rather find a larger apartment.</p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: It just sounds absurd that someone who drinks as much as you would be critical of her for drinking.</p>
<p>GEORGE: Some people, when they stay at home&mdash;I may do some binge drinking, but&mdash; when they stay at home, they can have one or two drinks. She&rsquo;s a different kind of drinker, and it makes her go <i>inner</i>. It makes her become less present. I can&rsquo;t communicate with her.  </p>
<p>DR. SELMAN: I would like some input from Hilly. You&rsquo;ve been primarily silent about all of this. Any thoughts? I don&rsquo;t hear you saying, &ldquo;I get home at night and I&rsquo;m agitated and I&rsquo;m fidgety and I can&rsquo;t sit still, and I have to go in and clean dishes or silverware or clean the apartment or rearrange stuff.&rdquo; And you&rsquo;re not presenting that to me as a problem. He&rsquo;s presenting that as a problem that <i>you</i> have that bothers <i>him</i>. You are not presenting it as a problem at all. </p>
<p>HILLY: My problem is, I can&rsquo;t take care of those anxious feelings. I can&rsquo;t finish cleaning the floor in the bathroom because the next morning I have to get ready in the <i>bathroom</i> with the door shut, so basically I have to put my handbag and my cosmetics and everything down on the surface that&rsquo;s not clean, like where people have gone to the bathroom, and it&rsquo;s <i>disgusting</i>. And I&rsquo;m not even allowed to mop the floor in there! It&rsquo;s frustrating. So we&rsquo;re sitting there watching a movie, and all I can think about is: &ldquo;Oh gosh, tomorrow morning I can&rsquo;t wait to put my Chlo&eacute; linen skirt that was however many hundreds of dollars I bought years ago down on this, like, pubic-hair-covered floor.&rdquo; It&rsquo;s disgusting!</p>
<p>GEORGE: Ha ha ha ha ha. </p>
<p>[<i>To be continued</i>.]</p>
<p><i>&mdash;George Gurley</i></p>
<p><b>Prior Articles:</b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.observer.com/20060501/20060501_Sara_Vilkomerson_thecity_newyorkworld.asp">George and Hilly published 05/01/06</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/20060417/20060417_George_Gurley_thecity_newyorkworld.asp">George and Hilly published 04/17/06</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/20060403/20060403_George_Gurley_thecity_newyorkworld.asp">George and Hilly published 04/03/06</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/20060320/20060320_George_Gurley_thecity_newyorkworld.asp">George and Hilly published 03/20/06</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/20060206/20060206_George_Gurley_thecity_newyorkworld.asp">George and Hilly published 02/6/06</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/20060206/20060123_George_Gurley_thecity_newyorkworld012306.asp">George and Hilly published 01/23/06</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/20060206/20060116_George_Gurley_thecity_newyorkworld.asp">George and Hilly published 01/16/06</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/thecity_newyorkworld122605.asp">George and Hilly published 12/26/05</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/thecity_newyorkworld111405.asp">George and Hilly published 11/14/05</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/thecity_newyorkworld110705.asp">George and Hilly published 11/07/05</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/thecity_newyorkworld102405.asp">George and Hilly published 10/24/05</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/thecity_newyorkworld101705.asp">George and Hilly published 10/17/05</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/thecity_newyorkworld101005.asp">George and Hilly published 10/10/05</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/thecity_newyorkworld100305.asp">George and Hilly published 10/03/05</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/thecity_newyorkworld092605.asp">George &rsquo;n&rsquo; Hilly, Back in Couples, Turn on the Doc published 09/26/05</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/thecity_newyorkworld082905.asp">But Should We Get Married? Part III published 08/29/05</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/thecity_newyorkworld081505.asp">But Should We Get Married? published 08/15/05</a><br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/thecity_newyorkworld080805.asp">Should I Get Married? My Hilly Joining Me In Couples Session published 08/08/05</a></p>
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