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		<title>Times vs. Journal Digital Battle Royale! Landman Says WSJ Has Done &#039;Nothing&#039; With Its Web Site</title>

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		<description><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft" src="http://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/murdoch071808.jpg?w=154&h=300" />It's a late, sleepy summer Friday, but <em>New York Times </em>online editor Jon Landman has some choice words for Rupert Murdoch, Robert Thomson and <em>The</em> <em>Wall Street Journal</em>'s online editor, Alan Murray, this afternoon. </p>
<p>Well, technically speaking, he doesn't name any of those people in his weekly memo, or the paper itself, but in his weekly briefing designed to discuss accomplishments for <a href="http://www.nytimes.com">nytimes.com</a>, he comes out swinging! Namely, he says <a href="http://online.wsj.com/public/us">wsj.com</a> has accomplished nothing! </p>
<p>As Mr.Landman writes:</p>
<div class="oldbq">
<p>There's some financial newspaper out there, on Wall Street or maybe in midtown, we aren't sure. There's new ownership, it seems, some rich guy who says he wants his paper to be more like ours. So we challenged him to compete head to head with our Thanksgiving Day Topics Page. That was seven months ago. So far, nothing.</p>
<p>They must be busy covering the bad economy. Hard to do both, we suppose.</p>
</div>
<p>Here's what Mr. Landman wrote back in April reminding Mr. Murdoch about this &quot;challenge:&quot;</p>
<div class="oldbq">
<p>Challenge<br />It was many, many months ago that we challenged Rupert Murdoch to a Thanksgiving Day Topic Page faceoff.  Here's our Thanksgiving Day Topic Page, we said.<br /><a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/t/thanksgiving_day/index.html">http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/t/thanksgiving_day/index.html</a></p>
<p>Where's yours? We didn't get an answer. (And WSJ customers didn't get a<br />topic page!)</p>
</div>
<p>(The original challenge can be found  <a href="http://gawker.com/news/burn%21/times-talks-turkey-online-and-smack-on-murdoch-323643.php">here</a>.)</p>
<p>Robert Thomson <a href="http://www.observer.com/2008/robert-thomson-speaks">said</a> the Web page would be redesigned in the fall, and we're suddenly giddy over a new, digital war! Forget newsstand sales! Topic Pages is the prize now!</p>
<p>Here's the memo in its entirety:</p>
<div class="oldbq">
<p>To: The Staff     From: Jonathan Landman &amp; Vivian Schiller</p>
<p>July 18, 2008</p>
<p>There's some financial newspaper out there, on Wall Street or maybe in midtown, we aren't sure. There's new ownership, it seems, some rich guy who says he wants his paper to be more like ours. So we challenged him to compete head to head with our Thanksgiving Day Topics Page. That was seven months ago. So far, nothing.</p>
<p>They must be busy covering the bad economy. Hard to do both, we suppose. We sympathize, yet at the same time we don't see why a snappy Web site can't do turkeys and dismal science. Especially one with all those imaginative<br />uses of multimedia, topics pages, blogs, reader comments and other fresh and exciting things.</p>
<p>Markets<br />If you want to really dig into the economic news you have to crunch some numbers. You can get them by clicking around on a bunch of government and reference Web sites. Or you can click here.<br /><a href="http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/markets/overview/overview.asp">http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/markets/overview/overview.asp</a></p>
<p>That's our redesigned and expanded Markets section. It's a data fest with all sorts of specialty mini-sites.</p>
<p>Like currencies<br /><a href="http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/markets/currencies/currencies.asp">http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/markets/currencies/currencies.asp</a></p>
<p>Consumer rates<br /><a href="http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/markets/rates/rates.asp">http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/markets/rates/rates.asp</a></p>
<p>Bonds<br /><a href="http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/markets/bonds/bonds.asp">http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/markets/bonds/bonds.asp</a></p>
<p>And a bunch of others.</p>
<p>There's also a new section front for Economy, the first of a group of ambitious sub-verticals in the Business section.<br /><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/pages/business/economy/index.html?adxnnl=1&amp;adxnnlx=1215806444-PouHR1C5bnPnngVYtmBPSA">http://www.nytimes.com/pages/business/economy/index.html?adxnnl=1&amp;adxnnlx=1215806444-PouHR1C5bnPnngVYtmBPSA</a></p>
<p>Coming in Economy: An economics blog by David Leonhardt and Catherine Rampell.</p>
<p>Perspective<br />It's no longer unusual to see professional athletes blogging. Still, it's nice when they do it for us.<br /><a href="http://olympics.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/14/basketball-diary-in-baltimore-preparing-for-beijing/">http://olympics.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/14/basketball-diary-in-baltimore-preparing-for-beijing/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/07/milton-bradley-what-have-i-done-now/">http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/07/milton-bradley-what-have-i-done-now/</a></p>
<p>Young<br />It's the young folks who are adapting to the Web, right? Hah!<br /><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/fashion/20080713_STREET_FEATURE/index.html">http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/fashion/20080713_STREET_FEATURE/index.html</a></p>
<p>He does it every week. People like it. Here's a piece of fan mail:</p>
<p>&quot;Mr. Cunningham: I've been a regular reader of nytimes.com for a couple of years, and I enjoy so much about the site. The interactivity of readers adding comments on various stories of note, the excellent writing, features, columns. But I must tell you, your pieces make my week every time. I can't wait to see the slide shows and familiar streets, the<br />vibrancy of the photos. But it is always your voice, your accent, your cheery and bemused take on the fashion that I really enjoy. Thanks so much. Keep it up! (I've been hoping we readers would have the option to comment<br />on your stuff...perhaps soon!)&quot;</p>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft" src="http://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/murdoch071808.jpg?w=154&h=300" />It's a late, sleepy summer Friday, but <em>New York Times </em>online editor Jon Landman has some choice words for Rupert Murdoch, Robert Thomson and <em>The</em> <em>Wall Street Journal</em>'s online editor, Alan Murray, this afternoon. </p>
<p>Well, technically speaking, he doesn't name any of those people in his weekly memo, or the paper itself, but in his weekly briefing designed to discuss accomplishments for <a href="http://www.nytimes.com">nytimes.com</a>, he comes out swinging! Namely, he says <a href="http://online.wsj.com/public/us">wsj.com</a> has accomplished nothing! </p>
<p>As Mr.Landman writes:</p>
<div class="oldbq">
<p>There's some financial newspaper out there, on Wall Street or maybe in midtown, we aren't sure. There's new ownership, it seems, some rich guy who says he wants his paper to be more like ours. So we challenged him to compete head to head with our Thanksgiving Day Topics Page. That was seven months ago. So far, nothing.</p>
<p>They must be busy covering the bad economy. Hard to do both, we suppose.</p>
</div>
<p>Here's what Mr. Landman wrote back in April reminding Mr. Murdoch about this &quot;challenge:&quot;</p>
<div class="oldbq">
<p>Challenge<br />It was many, many months ago that we challenged Rupert Murdoch to a Thanksgiving Day Topic Page faceoff.  Here's our Thanksgiving Day Topic Page, we said.<br /><a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/t/thanksgiving_day/index.html">http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/t/thanksgiving_day/index.html</a></p>
<p>Where's yours? We didn't get an answer. (And WSJ customers didn't get a<br />topic page!)</p>
</div>
<p>(The original challenge can be found  <a href="http://gawker.com/news/burn%21/times-talks-turkey-online-and-smack-on-murdoch-323643.php">here</a>.)</p>
<p>Robert Thomson <a href="http://www.observer.com/2008/robert-thomson-speaks">said</a> the Web page would be redesigned in the fall, and we're suddenly giddy over a new, digital war! Forget newsstand sales! Topic Pages is the prize now!</p>
<p>Here's the memo in its entirety:</p>
<div class="oldbq">
<p>To: The Staff     From: Jonathan Landman &amp; Vivian Schiller</p>
<p>July 18, 2008</p>
<p>There's some financial newspaper out there, on Wall Street or maybe in midtown, we aren't sure. There's new ownership, it seems, some rich guy who says he wants his paper to be more like ours. So we challenged him to compete head to head with our Thanksgiving Day Topics Page. That was seven months ago. So far, nothing.</p>
<p>They must be busy covering the bad economy. Hard to do both, we suppose. We sympathize, yet at the same time we don't see why a snappy Web site can't do turkeys and dismal science. Especially one with all those imaginative<br />uses of multimedia, topics pages, blogs, reader comments and other fresh and exciting things.</p>
<p>Markets<br />If you want to really dig into the economic news you have to crunch some numbers. You can get them by clicking around on a bunch of government and reference Web sites. Or you can click here.<br /><a href="http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/markets/overview/overview.asp">http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/markets/overview/overview.asp</a></p>
<p>That's our redesigned and expanded Markets section. It's a data fest with all sorts of specialty mini-sites.</p>
<p>Like currencies<br /><a href="http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/markets/currencies/currencies.asp">http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/markets/currencies/currencies.asp</a></p>
<p>Consumer rates<br /><a href="http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/markets/rates/rates.asp">http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/markets/rates/rates.asp</a></p>
<p>Bonds<br /><a href="http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/markets/bonds/bonds.asp">http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/markets/bonds/bonds.asp</a></p>
<p>And a bunch of others.</p>
<p>There's also a new section front for Economy, the first of a group of ambitious sub-verticals in the Business section.<br /><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/pages/business/economy/index.html?adxnnl=1&amp;adxnnlx=1215806444-PouHR1C5bnPnngVYtmBPSA">http://www.nytimes.com/pages/business/economy/index.html?adxnnl=1&amp;adxnnlx=1215806444-PouHR1C5bnPnngVYtmBPSA</a></p>
<p>Coming in Economy: An economics blog by David Leonhardt and Catherine Rampell.</p>
<p>Perspective<br />It's no longer unusual to see professional athletes blogging. Still, it's nice when they do it for us.<br /><a href="http://olympics.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/14/basketball-diary-in-baltimore-preparing-for-beijing/">http://olympics.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/14/basketball-diary-in-baltimore-preparing-for-beijing/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/07/milton-bradley-what-have-i-done-now/">http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/07/milton-bradley-what-have-i-done-now/</a></p>
<p>Young<br />It's the young folks who are adapting to the Web, right? Hah!<br /><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/fashion/20080713_STREET_FEATURE/index.html">http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/fashion/20080713_STREET_FEATURE/index.html</a></p>
<p>He does it every week. People like it. Here's a piece of fan mail:</p>
<p>&quot;Mr. Cunningham: I've been a regular reader of nytimes.com for a couple of years, and I enjoy so much about the site. The interactivity of readers adding comments on various stories of note, the excellent writing, features, columns. But I must tell you, your pieces make my week every time. I can't wait to see the slide shows and familiar streets, the<br />vibrancy of the photos. But it is always your voice, your accent, your cheery and bemused take on the fashion that I really enjoy. Thanks so much. Keep it up! (I've been hoping we readers would have the option to comment<br />on your stuff...perhaps soon!)&quot;</p>
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