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Going… Going… Still Here! Why Some Luxury Homes Languish on the Market for Eons

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By Kim Velsey 11/19/12 5:41pm
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    Take, for example, the ten-room spread on the fourth-floor of the Dakota—one of the most legendary co-ops in New York (where else can one mingle at an annual October potluck with both Lauren Bacall and Yoko Ono?)—that has been on the market since October 2006.

    The $14.5 million apartment lacks park views, and its décor is a bit theatrical, but it has 4,500 square feet, six fireplaces, and a shaving closet. Still, after so many years, even the Warburg listing sounds fatigued, sapped of the energy to string clauses and descriptions into proper sentences; it ends with a semi-coherent fade out: “One of a kind. Function and glamour………….As fabulous as your fantasy.”

    A few dozen blocks north, on Central Park West, the turreted, red-brick condo conversion at 455 CPW has had a terrible time trying to lure buyers. The former nursing home and New York Cancer Hospital has undergone an impressive makeover, but No. LM17 and LM19 both hit the market in December 2006, where they remain to this day, asking $5.6 million and $3.8 million respectively. Manhattanville isn’t the most prestigious address, and buyers may have an aversion to moving into a building where most residents once left in body bags. But can that really explain a half-decade of snubbing?

    And what of the penthouse at 425 East 63rd Street, listed since February 2007? Doesn’t anyone want a $5.6 million penthouse on Lexington and 63rd Street, even if it does look like something out of a Jackie Collins novel? The long-suffering broker, Debra Forest of AIB Management Corp., admitted there were a few things that might not appeal to potential buyers: the penthouse is actually two separate units that would need to be combined, and the décor is “circa the 1980s.” But she remains confident someone will be thrilled to snap it up. “I’m definitely not worried,” she said. “The owner is not worried.”

    There might be any number of deficiencies or problems with apartments that linger, according to Jonathan Miller of appraisal firm Miller Samuel, but the only real problem is price. “There’s always a price to match a buyer,” he said. “Even when someone is murdered in an apartment, there’s a price it will sell for.”

    What’s more, overpricing can backfire. A study Mr. Miller did with the Furman Center at NYU found that the closer the seller lists a property to its actual market value, the higher the price it actually sells for. And conversely, he said, “if you throw a property on for an absurdly high price, you end up getting less than you would have if you had listed it close to market value.”

    Vanity and ego are the two major driving factors behind many outrageous asking prices. Take, for example, the townhouse at 22 East 71st Street, purchased by Aby Rosen for $15.6 million in 2004. After completing a partial renovation, the real estate tycoon relisted it for a whopping $75 million in 2008, making it the most expensive townhouse listing at the time, (that honor now belongs to the $90 million Woolworth Mansion). Mr. Rosen, who never lived in the home, eventually dropped the ask to $50 million in 2011 and the property is now said to be in contract to the Qatari prime minister for $47 million.

    “Aby is Aby,” said one high-end broker. “It’s ego.”

    Nobody who has had their property on the market for more than three years really wants to sell, claimed Fred Peters, the president of Warburg Realty. Some sellers are parading a trophy, some are testing the market and some are simply delusional. But, said Mr. Peters, “at some point, the pain becomes too much. It all depends on where the threshold is.”

    At this point, the seller frequently moves on to a second broker (indeed, most lingering listings leave a string of jilted brokers in their wake), for whom he or she is often willing to lower the price. The Chelsea penthouse, for example, burned through nine different brokers and four different brokerages. And that’s not even counting the rental brokers.

    Other reasons that places sit: a fussy co-op board kills a low offer, or it’s an estate, notoriously difficult to sell because the apartments often need renovation and bickering heirs are reluctant to lower prices. But most brokers blame dust-covered listings on unrealistic sellers and the brokers who are only too happy to tell them what they wanted to hear in exchange for a wildly expensive exclusive listing and the publicity that comes with it.

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    Listed for $8 million in 2006, penthouse A/B at 129 West 20th Street in Chelsea is stunning, but more than six years later, it still has no takers, despite dropping its asking price to $6.45 million. “The owner really spent a lot of money in the materials and the design,” said one broker. “But in real estate, your dream penthouse is not someone else’s dream penthouse.”

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    This ten-room spread at the Dakota debuted in October 2006, asking $19.5 million (it now wants $14.5 million). The wacky styles and metallic paint beloved by the owner, advertising bigwig Ilon Specht, may not be everyone's speed, nor is the $8,598 a month in common charges, but come on---it's the Dakota!

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    Who doesn't want to live in a castle next to Central Park? But units LM17 and LM19 at 455 Central Park West have been listed since December 2006. Perhaps buyers find the city's first cancer hospital, which later became a scandal-ridden nursing home, a spooky place to call home?

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    To enjoy the penthouse at 425 East 63rd Street, listed since February 2007, the new owner will need to combine two separate units. As for why no one seems willing to plunk down $5.6 million for the privilege in this real estate-obsessed city, it may have something to do with the bear skin rugs, the marble and gold bathrooms or the ventriloquist dummy on the couch.

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    The townhouse at 120 East 70th Street was asking $33 million when it came on the market in August 2007. Time has not dimmed its ambition. This spring, the price shot up from the reduced ask of $25 million, to an all-time high of $35 million. "It's a beautiful house, but it's overpriced," said one broker. Another agreed, adding that he'd never even seen a 20-foot wide townhouse ask for so much. Certainly, he'd never seen one get it.

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    The 12th-floor of 810 Fifth Avenue once belonged to the late vice president Nelson Rockefeller, who knocked down the wall of the building next door to expand his spread after divorcing his first wife and yielding the two upper floors of their triplex to her. Listed since February 2008, this co-op is only half of the legendary spread and with just two bedrooms, it seems on the small side for a $27.5 million price tag.

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    Apartment No. 9/10A at 1 Beekman Place has dropped its price more than a few times since it debuted at $13.9 million in March 2008. Now listed at $10.5 million, the price is certainly more palatable and the apartment appears to have been renovated recently. Could it be that Beekman Place is not the draw it once was?

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    No. 3B at 129 East 69th Street ticks all the boxes: pre-war, nine-room, asking a not outrageous $5.95 million. We'd say its biggest sin was probably hitting the market at $6.9 million in November 2008---roughly two months after the fall of Lehman.

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    We can't say that we're shocked that No. 24A, a four-bedroom in Hell's Kitchen's Atelier, can't get its $4.5 million asking price. The unit was purchased for $1.17 back in 2008 and relisted four months later for $2.7 million. Its price has continued to rise ever since as the listing languishes year after year.

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    Besides the fact that the listing photos seem underwhelming alongside the soaring descriptions and features like 100-feet of Park Avenue frontage and 12 rooms, it's hard to say why no one wants duplex 8AB at 755 Park Avenue. Maybe it's just asking too much? Listed in May 2009, it has since dropped its price from $18 million to $16 million.

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  1. WrteStufLA says:
    November 26, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    129 W. 20th: “But in real estate, your dream penthouse is not someone else’s dream penthouse.”

    I’m not sure anyone’s dream penthouse would have the guest powder room — the only bathroom on the entertainment floor — located directly from middle of the dining room. Why wouldn’t an owner/developer realize that before dropping so much money into the unit?

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