Jesse and Irene discuss media

After you spend awhile down at Zuccotti Park, you think nothing can faze you. Kanye West showing up wearing gold bling and not talking? Sure. Rage Against the Machine playing Woody Guthrie? Why not. Cool cops? Been there, occupied that.

Though we have to say, watching OWS media hero Jesse LaGreca being questioned by Irene McGee, best known for being the woman who walked off Real World: Seattle was one of the odder moments of this long, strange trip we've been on.


Full disclosure: We had spent the day hanging out with Ms. McGee, who now devotes her time to a "media-on-media" podcast called No One's Listening. We were taking her to all our favorite haunts - "Here's the drum circle center, here's the food donation area, this is where everyone is cleaning up in case Mayor Bloomberg tries to kick them out tomorrow..." - but decided that in order to get the full story on the media situation on Occupy Wall Street, the former reality show star would have to meet Mr. LaGreca. Who better to opine on the MSM coverage of the protests?

Of course, MTV has their own way of covering Occupy Wall Street. We just prefer our version better.

Occupiers marching on Wall Street

What a difference a week makes. The weather was unseasonably mild on Friday afternoon, and as The New York Observer strolled around Zuccotti Park, the atmosphere still had the feel of a Ren Faire that had wandered into the wrong neighborhood. But there was definitely something different in the vibe over at Occupy Wall Street H.Q. Since the unions called out the troops last Wednesday, marching in solidarity with the protesters, the demo has skewed older—for instance, a pair of women standing in the front of the park looked as though they’d qualify for discount movie tickets. They held signs that read “Pissed off Grey Hairs say ‘Jail the Wall Street Bastards.’”

A transformation was underway. What had once seemed like a hastily assembled urban shanty town, thrumming with organized chaos, was, by Friday, beginning to look like a semi-permanent encampment, with every section of Liberty Plaza maximized for efficiency.

The twice-daily General Assemblies had become so large, the “human microphone” would have to repeat each line twice, the words rippling outward. By the weekend, someone would create a closed-captioning system, projecting the speakers’ words on a screen.

Tourists had found the place—now a must-see on any visitors’ itinerary—and with them vendors from Times Square and the nearby World Trade Center site, hawking miniature Wall Street bulls, snow globes, pins of African-American leaders. (For now, there were still no “I Occupied Wall Street” T-shirts or tambourines printed with the Guy Fawkes mask—someone should get on that.) The food trucks flanking the park weren’t seeing much action, but the occupiers did not seem to be lacking for sustenance. There was a food donation area for dry goods and such, as well as a “food fund,” sponsored by the Alliance for Global Justice (where OccupyWallSt.org has been registered as a nonprofit). Monetary donations could be made at WePay.com. Pizzas were delivered on a regular basis from Liberatos Pizza, a few blocks away, which early on set up a deal by which sympathizers could order the special “Occu-Pies” online and have them sent to the park. On most days, the food served for free in Zuccotti Park leaned toward the vegetarian sprouts-and-couscous type fare that one would expect to see at a Liberal Arts college co-op. Whole Food runs are not unheard of.

There were also stacks of bottled water, and an irrigation system opposite the food line—part of the compost and waste disposal system set up by a group called Mobile Design Lab.

Around the perimeter of Liberty Plaza, various advocacy groups had set up folding tables, seemingly out of nowhere. They offered services ranging from green-energy alternatives (communityenergyinc.com, a renewable-power company that has partnered with ConEd, an arrangement the group had “mixed feelings about,” according to a spokesperson) to a “Free Law Counsel” area, where a passer-by could pick up an information packet about applying to CUNY’s law school.

There was a group called Coaching Visionaries, which was formed less than a week ago, comprising Certified Professional Coaches who were a little bit murky on whom they were coaching and to what end. “Our website doesn’t have a lot of stuff on it yet,” one of the women behind the desk admitted. Another woman thrust a piece of paper in front of us. It read “Johnson & Johnson Suspected in Attempted Murder,” and directed readers to FlossRings.com. We also encountered a representative from AVAAZ.org, an online petition group that broadcasts in 14 different languages and promised to have a ticker of the total number of signatures running soon.

Over near the food trucks we ran into Chris Martenson, Ph.D., who was telling people about his new book, The Crash Course. While he opined about the crisis in the global economy, we realized that the cameraman filming us wasn’t from a network; he was doing a documentary on Dr. Matenson that we had inadvertently consented to be in.

Farther into the park, near General Assembly’s growing media center, Richard Brodsky, the former New York assemblyman, was talking to a man with a fake Fox News camera made of cardboard.

“Look, this is the best thing since sliced bread,” Mr. Brodsky said, gesturing to the park, “There is no structure, it’s more of a statement on how people should be treating each other than an institute of public policy. Change isn’t made through public policy wonks, it’s made organically.” Then he left us to go find someone from ABC with whom he had a real interview scheduled.

We began to wonder if anyone realized that that Fox News camera was fake. (So was that Sarah Palin impersonator walking around.) While demonstrators encountered during the first week sometimes struggled to articulate a vision, everyone at the park now seemed soundbite-ready, and could discourse about their particular cause at the drop of a Rasta cap. Zuccotti’s demographic was less 99 percent that afternoon and more 50-50: half journalists (or citizen journalists), half protesters. Sometimes the two groups would switch parts, and the person being interviewed would lift cameras or cell phones and start firing questions at the news teams.

This was what democracy looked like three weeks into the occupation: less Bonnaroo, and more “college job fair.” The movement newspaper, The Occupied Wall Street Journal, published its second edition right on schedule, and added one in Spanish. The president had weighed in. Things were humming.

The shift away from the free-wheeling anarchy of the early days of the movement—way back in late September—has not left everyone happy.

“A lot of the original protesters are pissed that the Libertarians are joining up,” one General Assembly regular told us, insisting on anonymity and going on to warn darkly that “there are some Tea Party people here too.” This floating fear of being usurped by an influx of hard-core right wingers seemed to be based more on the media’s theorizing than in reality: several articles comparing the Occupy movement to the Tea Party had lead to what a ’60s counterculture radical might call “a bad scene.” We spent all day looking for a possible Tea Party member or Ron Paul sympathizer and came up empty-handed. (Maybe they only show up during the marches.) On Sunday, though, the Slovenian philosopher (and friend of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange) Slavoj Žižek told the assembled that they should try to actually try to openly recruit Tea Partiers to the cause, not dismiss them. “They may be stupid,” he said, “but don’t look at them as the enemy.

Though Occupy Wall Street has no official religious affiliation, sympathizers of the movement held a Kol Nidrei Service for Yom Kippur on Friday night that drew hundreds of mostly 20-somethings to the plaza in front of the Brown Brothers Harriman building, across the street from Zuccotti. Four rabbis adorned in white led the reading of machzor, the prayer book, while the audience followed along, only slightly distracted by the wafting aroma of grilled lamb and chicken from the halal trucks that are perpetually stationed around the area. The loud drum circle being held simultaneously in Zuccotti Park—along with the human microphone technique employed by the rabbis—were also minor hurdles in following the services, though no one seemed to mind.

The service touched on politics, but only briefly. In addition to the traditional sins listed in the Alvenu Malkeinu prayer, the supplemental material noted a few more: “We have sinned ... by being cynical about the world ...” worshippers chanted, “by not defending Israel ... by not defending Palestine.”

In a Sunday editorial, The New York Times (sounding a lot like a speaker at General Assembly) offered a forceful defense of the movement, in particular its much-criticized lack of concrete demands: “At this point, protest is the message,” The Times declared. “Income inequality is grinding down [the] middle class, increasing the ranks of the poor, and threatening to create a permanent underclass of able, willing but jobless people ... the protesters, most of them young, are giving voice to a generation of lost opportunity.”

The editorial marked a new legitimacy for the protests—lending the whole thing the feel of a speeding bandwagon, with onlookers (including Kanye West) angling for a foothold on which to clamber aboard.

Democratic though the movement has been thus far, we’re still living in a celebrity culture, and each additional dose of star power was generally seen as a net plus (especially in terms of generating media buzz). The week’s speakers, in addition to Mr. Žižek, included Van Jones, Nobel Prize winning-economist Joseph Stiglitz, and New York Times economist Jeff  Madrick. There were free musical sets from activist punk band Anti-Flag, Jeff Mangum from Neutral Milk Hotel (whose wife, Astra Taylor, directed the documentary Žižek! about the superstar philosopher) and Talib Kweli. Meanwhile, some of the protesters have become stars in their own right, like Daily Kos blogger Jesse LaGreca, who went from appearing in an unaired Fox News interview to debating Christiane Amanpour, George Will and Peggy Noonan on ABC’s This Week round table Sunday.

At this point in the game, it is impossible to ignore the protesters and hope they go away. Mayor Bloomberg announced Monday that they were free to stay in the park “indefinitely,” a seeming olive branch that was negated somewhat when he was asked how long the Occupation in Zuccotti would last. “I think part of it has probably to do with the weather,” the mayor responded. Freezing them out, rather than forcibly removing them, seemed like the most viable option.

Even President Obama acknowledged the protests, noting that they “[express] the frustrations the American people feel.” That stopped well short of Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke’s near-endorsement a few days before (“I can’t blame them”) but it was remarkable nonetheless for a nascent movement.

The Occupy movement is now having its own westward expansion: spreading last week (according to OccupyTogether.org, an off-shoot of OccupyWallSt.org) to some 1,213 cities around the world, with major hubs in Portland, Ore.; Los Angeles, D.C., Atlanta, Chicago, Philadelphia, Columbus, Oakland, Toledo, Denver, Minneapolis, Seattle, Phoenix and San Diego.

Todd Gitlin, Columbia professor, former Students for a Democratic Society cofounder, and author of The Sixties: Years of Hope, Days of Rage, wrote a piece for The New York Times this weekend comparing the dynamics of OWS and the General Assembly to (among other things) the New Left group that defined the student political agenda in the hippie era.

“‘Let the people decide,’” he wrote, “meant, in practice, ‘Let’s have long meetings where everyone gets to talk.’ De facto, this meant that politics was for people who, in a sense, talked for a living—in other words, college types.”

Occupy Wall Street’s de facto decision-making body, the General Assembly, has thus far organized itself along similar lines. And in contrast to the Occupy movement as a whole, which is all about spreading the word, the New York General Assembly in Zuccotti Park has been more focused on keeping its little village going, which, as the days turn colder, will be harder to do.

“It’s up to the key players,” Mr. Gitlin told us by phone on Sunday. “They can be seen in terms of forces: the first force are those actually in the park, and these other cities, that are attracting and galvanizing people to get involved. The second force are the people you saw Wednesday—the unions, the professional groups—and I don’t know what they have in mind. I don’t know if they know what they have in mind.”

(The irony, of course, is that this sounds suspiciously like what the media were saying about the original protesters … until the unions came and legitimized the cause.)

“I’m not even sure if the groups needs a collective message,” Mr. Gitlin continued, “since it’s not as important what the people in the park do as what the entire movement does. The original movement might have started with the Park People (i.e., those occupying the park and holding General Assembly meetings), but the majority that you saw marching Wednesday were not the Park People. So the Park People have some leverage, but they aren’t the most important facet of what’s going on right now.”

Those words may sting for those who started the fire and maintained it in Zuccotti Park for the past three weeks. They were the ones getting arrested and making themselves vulnerable to the police’s pepper spray and the media’s ridicule. But as the movement becomes mainstream, it will increasingly be dominated by faces that contain fewer piercings and are better shaven.

As winter approaches, one can’t help wondering, with Mayor Bloomberg, how long the protesters will last. Kyle Christopher, a hyperactive 27-year-old who has been part of General Assembly’s P.R. team and one of the main videographers for the Occupy Wall Street protests, has already decamped for D.C., where he will be filming the occupation there. When we asked one crust-punk girl wearing a bandanna over her face how long she planned to participate, she replied, “Forever. Or until it gets cold out.”

Then again, a sign held by another demonstrator suggested the group might be determined enough to last through the winter. “Lost my job,” it read. “Found an occupation.”

Sunday afternoon, The Observer went down to Zuccotti Park to continue our series of portraits of protesters and other people drawn to the Financial District. Suddenly we noticed a trend: a preponderance of very attractive people in the crowd. Since Occupy Wall Street's foes love to dismiss the protesters as "druggy" and unhygenic, we thought we would highlight a few of the glamorous citizens of the 99 percent. Qualifications included charisma, optimism, or a certain way of bantering with a Fox News producer, but basically we shot anyone we just couldn't stop staring at. While we hope this gallery brings a new view to the people behind the Occupy Wall Street movement, we also hope it clears up any outstanding mysteries before the next round of Craigslist Missed Connections.

(All photographs by Zenith Richards for The Observer)

George Will vs. Jesse LaGreca on ABC's "This Week"

Occupy Wall Street's articulate champion of the Nu-New Left, Jesse LaGreca, finally made it to air this Sunday when he was invited on ABC's This Week with Christiane Amanpour. Watch the Daily Kos writer made famous by his un-aired Fox News interview hold his own against the likes of George Will and Peggy Noonan. We've also transcribed Mr. LaGreca's segment below for those of you at work without headphones.

Christiane Amanpour: Okay, we've spoken a lot about them, now I'm going to bring in Jesse LaGreca, who is a blogger for the liberal website Daily Kos, and he's been a fixture at the Wall Street Protests. So Jesse, you've been listening to all of these descriptions of your movement, where do you come down? We've talked about it being immature, it hasn't had a policy, a sort of directives...what is it that you are trying to consolidate around there?

Jesse LaGreca: Well I think that the matter at hand is that the working class people in America - 99% of Americans who aren't wealthy and aren't prospering in this economy - have been entirely ignored by the media. Our political leaders pander to us but they don't take action, they stand in the way of change, they filibuster on behalf of the wealthiest 1%, and they fold around the wealthiest 1%. So the conversation we need to have is about the future; what kind of country we really want to be. And I think the most important thing we can do in this occupation is to continue to push the narrative that's been ignored by so many pundits and political leaders. I mean, the reality is that I'm the only working class person you're going to see on Sunday news... political news... maybe ever. And I think that is very indicative of the failures of our media to report on the news that matter most importantly...

Christiane Amanpour: (cutting in)...We are trying our best, Jesse..

Jesse LaGreca: Thank you.

Christiane Amanpour: And I wanted to ask you: Some of your most vociferous supporters like our colleague Paul Krugman have spoken quite glowingly about this populist movement. And you've even heard people around this table say that it should be harnessed. But you also say that it's the moment now to try and perhaps translate that into some kind of political question... political demand. Is there something that you can make this about?

Jesse LaGreca: I think the entire movement is about economic justice. I mean to me - and I'm not speaking on behalf of Occupy Wall Street, I'm just giving my personal opinion - I think it's a matter of economic rights, and I think it's a matter of social rights, and social justice. And to the people who would take offense to the word "social" being placed before the word "justice," I'd invite them to re-read the Constitution.

Christiane Amanpour: Let me ask George Will, who wanted to ask you a short question.

George Will: Mr. LaGreca, I hear a certain dissonance in your message: Your message which is that Washington is corrupt, Washington is the handmaiden to powerful, and a lot of conservatives would agree with that. But then you say that this corrupt handmaiden to the powerful should be much more powerful in regulating our lives. Why would you want a corrupt government bigger in our lives?

Jesse LaGreca: You know, I find that a lot of these conversations about government tend to deflect away from Wall Street, because let's be honest: the lobbyists have enormous power, and they've shut out a lot of the voice of the American people. So I think we should demand a government that is listening to people, and I find it ironic that when people demand action from their government, suddenly people tend to overreact and say "That is uncontrollable government." Our government is a function of our democracy; by attacking our government we are attacking democracy. So to me, yes, I think the government should represent the will of the people, and if the will of the people are demanding action, then they should follow suite.

Christiane Amanpour: Do you think these demonstrations are going to have momentum? Is it going to continue now, day after day?

Jesse LaGreca: Absolutely. People are extremely excited about what we are doing. We're engaging in a direct democracy conversation. I mean, the General Assembly is really the new town hall, and we don't have filibusters, we don't have lobbyists, we don't have a system that can be co-opted. And I invite anybody to come down and talk to us.

(Ms. Noonan says some B.S. about the Brooklyn Bridge protests.)

Christiane Amanpour: You know we're going to have to ask Jesse that really quickly. Jesse, are you going to harness this into a movement, or are you going to hang out for months?

Jesse LaGreca: You know what I find amusing is that now people are looking to us to solve the political problems...and they should. But I'm not going to support one party or the other, I'm not going to tell you who to vote for, but I will encourage you to be a voter. I think we have succeeded tremendously in pushing the narrative that working class people can no longer be ignored, and I think it's very important that we have this conversation, because it is about the future of our country. You know, right now working class people are being told to sacrifice, we're being told that our future is going to have to be put on hold in the name of austerity. And I can't name another country that has succeeded their economic problems with austerity. So I think the important thing to do is to come out and speak to us: the town halls that you see are very top-heavy. Our political leaders come and try to sell us a message...they should be listening to us.

Jon Stewart <3 Jesse LaGreca

We here at the New York Observer don't like to pat ourselves on the back too often (it's definitely uncouth, and we're nothing if not couth), but we couldn't help feeling a surge of pride when Jon Stewart used the video we uncovered of Daily Kos' Jesse LaGreca telling off a Fox News producer during  his Wednesday night broadcast.

Of course, we're only noticing this video now because unlike the "media-mocking-the-media-mocking-the-protesters" angle that Comedy Central took, we were actually down at the Megamarch on Wednesday and forgot to TiVo Mr. Stewart. Again, not patting ourselves on the back or anything.

However! We would like to challenge Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert -- both of whom are located in New York -- personally go down and cover the protests live. We'd also love to see them have Mr. LaGreca on their show. That is, if the political writer is willing to do it.

Jesse LaGreca (Photo via the Daily Kos)

When Fox News turned their cameras on the 31-year-old Daily Kos writer Jesse LaGreca last Wednesday, they didn't know what they were in for. Not only did Fox producer Griff Jenkins get schooled all over the Internet --  forcing Greta Van Susteren to respond on why they didn't air the footage of Mr. LaGreca's statements  -- but suddenly the somewhat haphazard movement was given a clear and distinct voice.

"Fox News wants to laugh at us," Mr. LaGreca told us in a phone interview Tuesday evening. "To say that we're unruly, that we're to be laughed at....because that fits into their narrative, which is that only free markets can save us. Only unregulated capitalism can save us. And anyone in opposition to that needs to be attacked and marginalized.'"

Mr. LaGreca certainly does not fit into the media's stereotype of the obtusely disenfranchised ne0-hippies that have been camping out at Zuccotti Park. He's been a freelance writer for the Daily Kos under the name MinistryOfTruth for the last three years and is one of their most frequent writers and commenters. He's a member of various subgroups on the site, including their Anonymous forum, Environmental Foodies, and the Progressive Policy Zone. Mr. LaGreca is no East Coast liberal either: though he currently resides in New York, it's only been for a month. His previous homes were in Colorado and Illinois. He does not (as far as we know) have health insurance. He is subsidized for his writing mostly by a Paypal link he set up on his articles. He is articulate, with framed arguments that have obviously been rehearsed in advanced. Not only is he the face of "The Budding Stars of Occupy Wall Street," according to the Atlantic Wire, but his presence is large enough to inspire its own legion of fans. (We noticed that he had a larger Twitter following than our personal account.) Basically: Mr. LaGreca is Fox News' worst nightmare.

"Their first question was whether we were inspired by Greece," said Mr. LaGreca, referencing the the way the network would lead protesters to inflammatory answers, "Which had a couple of incidents of student violence...It's a running meme in the right wing media: that if we don't do something about our economy we're going to end up like Greece. But the only thing we can do is what Fox News has been showing us since the day Obama was inaugurated."

Mr. LaGreca is not, like the media has portrayed some of the protesters, a brainwashed Obama-ite. His Daily Kos article from August is a scathing critique of Obama's nomination of Sen. Mike Lee's general counsel for U.S. Attorney of Utah.

When asked if he would be willing to go on Fox News and finally get to tell his side of the story, Mr. LaGreca surprisingly demurred. "I don't want to go on with anyone who has a history of misconstruing people's statements. There's certain networks that I have an obvious bias against. But there are people like Keith Olbermann, Dylan Ratigan...Jim Axelrod, who was a total gentleman. I'm willing to give anyone a fair shake. I'm willing to talk."

Despite being a very vocal member down at Zuccotti Park, Mr. LaGreca denies speaking for the Occupy Wall Street movement. "I'm not a spokesperson for anyone but myself," he tells us.

Okay, but does he have any advice for those watching the watchmen; i.e. protesters on the lookout for cherry-picking media reporters?

"One: be camera ready. Have your camera on you so if there is a media slant, you can capture it. Two: have a coherent message. Tell people exactly why you are here...not what other people are doing. The overarching theme here is that people are being screwed, but that can't be summed up in a soundbite-ready statement. However if you tell the media your personal story, it's the most touching, the most effective way to communicating to people why they should be here as well."