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		<title>&#8216;Danza Did It&#8217;: Finally, a Kickstarter as Confused as Its Subject</title>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 09:30:10 -0400</pubDate>
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			<dc:creator>Drew Grant</dc:creator>
				
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><div id="attachment_285932" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://observer.com/2013/01/danza-did-it-finally-a-kickstarter-as-confused-as-its-subject/danza/" rel="attachment wp-att-285932"><img class="size-medium wp-image-285932" alt="ExtravaDanza!" src="http://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/danza.jpg?w=300" width="300" height="267" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">ExtravaDanza!</p></div></p>
<p>If you love throwing money at vaguely worded, half-baked Internet "performance art projects" as much as you love <em>Who's the Boss</em>, do we have a Kickstarter for you! Meet Louis Crisitello Jr. and Hugo Ball, the creators of the $2,100 fund-raising campaign for something called "<a href="http://danzadidit.com/">Danza Did It</a>."</p>
<p>We'll let them explain:</p>
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<div>The idea behind "Danza Did It" is to present a performance art project that will originate online and hopefully manifest itself in the real world.  It is an interdisciplinary work. I view it as an odd melding of pop culture overkill and avant-garde experimentalism. The overall project will look to examine the artistic value of internet memes and track its growth as it becomes more widely accepted by the mainstream.</div>
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<div>As you are aware, Tony Danza is a man of many talents: actor, teacher, tap dancer, boxer, etc. (just to name a few). Just like the idiom "Jumping the Shark" was coined online by a man named Jon Hein, it is my goal to have the phrase "Danza did it" trickle into the everyday lexicon of society. Tony Danza represents someone who has done nearly everything.  Hence the meaning of "Danza did it" as an expression of "It's be done before."</div>
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<div> Still confused? Don't be ... this <a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/473889525/danza-did-it">Kickstarter video</a> should help explain what you'll be funding:<br />
<iframe src="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/473889525/danza-did-it/widget/video.html" height="360" width="480" frameborder="0"></iframe></div>
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<p>Also, it will be a documentary podcast thing that has a liminal relationship to Tony Danza:</p>
<blockquote><p>It is our ambition to conduct a series of revealing interviews with celebrities, politicians, artists, and everyday Americans who have been at the center of a media storm and have had their names plastered in headlines throughout the world. As avid fans of documentary film, we are originating the term “Documentary Podcasting.” We are observing the exploitation of wanted and unwanted celebrity.</p>
<p>Finally, visitors to our website will have opportunities to submit original content and compete in prize-winning contests.</p></blockquote>
<p>So wait, is Danza Did It itself an example of the exploitation of wanted or unwanted celebrity? What kind of Danza-Jörmungandr are we looking at here? We might never know ... unless you cough up the other $1,864 in the next 12 days.</p>
<p>If you are reticent about parting with hard-earned money, Mr. Crisitello is offers up a transparent plan detailing how your contributions will support Danza Does It:</p>
<blockquote><p>A portion of our funds will first go to pay for and fulfill our Kickstarter rewards. In addition, we need to purchase some quality audio equipment for our podcast as well as ancillary software and hardware. Lastly, we <strong>need to purchase select art supplies to bring some of our eccentric Tony Danza related ideas to fruition</strong>. Though we plan on finding followers via word of mouth, a small portion of funding will go towards our marketing efforts. Any additional or excess donations will be put to use for the planning and implementation of <strong>our Tony Danza-themed "ExtravaDanza Convention"</strong> that we hope to make a reality.</p></blockquote>
<p>So what will some of these Kickstarter rewards look like? Well, for only $250, you can get a promise for tickets to a convention "when and if it happens," as well as a Photoshopped picture of you hanging out with the Danza. But that's not all!<br />
<a href="http://observer.com/2013/01/danza-did-it-finally-a-kickstarter-as-confused-as-its-subject/extravadanza/" rel="attachment wp-att-285931"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-285931" alt="extravadanza" src="http://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/extravadanza.jpg" width="286" height="403" /></a><br />
We swear to God, if this turns out to a fund-raiser for Tony Danza's mayoral bid, we will consider pledging at least 10 dollars. We just hope Danza didn't do it first!</p>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><div id="attachment_285932" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://observer.com/2013/01/danza-did-it-finally-a-kickstarter-as-confused-as-its-subject/danza/" rel="attachment wp-att-285932"><img class="size-medium wp-image-285932" alt="ExtravaDanza!" src="http://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/danza.jpg?w=300" width="300" height="267" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">ExtravaDanza!</p></div></p>
<p>If you love throwing money at vaguely worded, half-baked Internet "performance art projects" as much as you love <em>Who's the Boss</em>, do we have a Kickstarter for you! Meet Louis Crisitello Jr. and Hugo Ball, the creators of the $2,100 fund-raising campaign for something called "<a href="http://danzadidit.com/">Danza Did It</a>."</p>
<p>We'll let them explain:</p>
<div>
<blockquote>
<div>The idea behind "Danza Did It" is to present a performance art project that will originate online and hopefully manifest itself in the real world.  It is an interdisciplinary work. I view it as an odd melding of pop culture overkill and avant-garde experimentalism. The overall project will look to examine the artistic value of internet memes and track its growth as it becomes more widely accepted by the mainstream.</div>
<div></div>
<div>As you are aware, Tony Danza is a man of many talents: actor, teacher, tap dancer, boxer, etc. (just to name a few). Just like the idiom "Jumping the Shark" was coined online by a man named Jon Hein, it is my goal to have the phrase "Danza did it" trickle into the everyday lexicon of society. Tony Danza represents someone who has done nearly everything.  Hence the meaning of "Danza did it" as an expression of "It's be done before."</div>
</blockquote>
<div> Still confused? Don't be ... this <a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/473889525/danza-did-it">Kickstarter video</a> should help explain what you'll be funding:<br />
<iframe src="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/473889525/danza-did-it/widget/video.html" height="360" width="480" frameborder="0"></iframe></div>
</div>
<p>Also, it will be a documentary podcast thing that has a liminal relationship to Tony Danza:</p>
<blockquote><p>It is our ambition to conduct a series of revealing interviews with celebrities, politicians, artists, and everyday Americans who have been at the center of a media storm and have had their names plastered in headlines throughout the world. As avid fans of documentary film, we are originating the term “Documentary Podcasting.” We are observing the exploitation of wanted and unwanted celebrity.</p>
<p>Finally, visitors to our website will have opportunities to submit original content and compete in prize-winning contests.</p></blockquote>
<p>So wait, is Danza Did It itself an example of the exploitation of wanted or unwanted celebrity? What kind of Danza-Jörmungandr are we looking at here? We might never know ... unless you cough up the other $1,864 in the next 12 days.</p>
<p>If you are reticent about parting with hard-earned money, Mr. Crisitello is offers up a transparent plan detailing how your contributions will support Danza Does It:</p>
<blockquote><p>A portion of our funds will first go to pay for and fulfill our Kickstarter rewards. In addition, we need to purchase some quality audio equipment for our podcast as well as ancillary software and hardware. Lastly, we <strong>need to purchase select art supplies to bring some of our eccentric Tony Danza related ideas to fruition</strong>. Though we plan on finding followers via word of mouth, a small portion of funding will go towards our marketing efforts. Any additional or excess donations will be put to use for the planning and implementation of <strong>our Tony Danza-themed "ExtravaDanza Convention"</strong> that we hope to make a reality.</p></blockquote>
<p>So what will some of these Kickstarter rewards look like? Well, for only $250, you can get a promise for tickets to a convention "when and if it happens," as well as a Photoshopped picture of you hanging out with the Danza. But that's not all!<br />
<a href="http://observer.com/2013/01/danza-did-it-finally-a-kickstarter-as-confused-as-its-subject/extravadanza/" rel="attachment wp-att-285931"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-285931" alt="extravadanza" src="http://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/extravadanza.jpg" width="286" height="403" /></a><br />
We swear to God, if this turns out to a fund-raiser for Tony Danza's mayoral bid, we will consider pledging at least 10 dollars. We just hope Danza didn't do it first!</p>
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		<title>Jimmy Pardo: Podcast Scene &#8216;Incestuous&#8217;</title>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 09:40:40 -0400</pubDate>
					<link>http://observer.com/2012/02/jimmy-pardo-podcast-scene-incestuous/</link>
			<dc:creator>Daniel D'Addario</dc:creator>
				
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<p><a href="http://www.observer.com/2012/02/a-serious-thing-happened-on-the-way-to-the-podcast/">In this week's feature on podcast culture</a>, we noted the popularity of a variety of comedy podcasts, many of which draw upon similar guest-driven formats. One interview subject noted the difficulty of having helped to define the format. Said podcast pioneer Jimmy Pardo, of <a href="http://pardcast.com/">Never Not Funny</a>: “It’s a little too incestuous. We’re all kind of using the same guests. I know we’re trying, and other shows are trying, to think outside this world a little bit.” Mr. Pardo said that when he’d had guests who were mainstream comedians, others had followed him. “It isn’t really groundbreaking because we’re all doing that now.”</p>
<p>Shows that swap out their guests week-to-week came in for criticism with Mr. Pardo: “I know there are some shows where you only listen if you like the guest. I don’t think you subscribe to my show for that reason. I think you subscribe for me.</p>
<p>“I’m only going to go on the feedback I hear from others… they say, I like Marc Maron’s show, but I pick and choose who to listen to because of the guests. I pick and choose who to listen to because of the guests. But I have to remember that people are telling me this because they like me.”</p>
<p>As he got into the game early, Mr. Pardo has had the luxury of defining his reality: “It would have driven me nuts to see Marc Maron, [Todd] Glass, [Chris] Hardwick, doing their podcasts,” said Mr. Pardo of why he decided to start in 2006, before many others began taping. “I would have been jealous and bitter.”</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.observer.com/2012/02/a-serious-thing-happened-on-the-way-to-the-podcast/">In this week's feature on podcast culture</a>, we noted the popularity of a variety of comedy podcasts, many of which draw upon similar guest-driven formats. One interview subject noted the difficulty of having helped to define the format. Said podcast pioneer Jimmy Pardo, of <a href="http://pardcast.com/">Never Not Funny</a>: “It’s a little too incestuous. We’re all kind of using the same guests. I know we’re trying, and other shows are trying, to think outside this world a little bit.” Mr. Pardo said that when he’d had guests who were mainstream comedians, others had followed him. “It isn’t really groundbreaking because we’re all doing that now.”</p>
<p>Shows that swap out their guests week-to-week came in for criticism with Mr. Pardo: “I know there are some shows where you only listen if you like the guest. I don’t think you subscribe to my show for that reason. I think you subscribe for me.</p>
<p>“I’m only going to go on the feedback I hear from others… they say, I like Marc Maron’s show, but I pick and choose who to listen to because of the guests. I pick and choose who to listen to because of the guests. But I have to remember that people are telling me this because they like me.”</p>
<p>As he got into the game early, Mr. Pardo has had the luxury of defining his reality: “It would have driven me nuts to see Marc Maron, [Todd] Glass, [Chris] Hardwick, doing their podcasts,” said Mr. Pardo of why he decided to start in 2006, before many others began taping. “I would have been jealous and bitter.”</p>
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		<title>A Serious Thing Happened On the Way to the Podcast</title>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:35:59 -0400</pubDate>
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			<dc:creator>Daniel D'Addario</dc:creator>
				
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<p>Recently, Los Angeles-based comedian Todd Glass decided to appear on the podcast hosted by fellow comic Marc Maron—and hilarity did not ensue.</p>
<p>When Mr. Glass first appeared on Mr. Maron’s show, <em>WTF</em>, in 2009, the program, in which Mr. Maron, the alt-comedy fixture and former Air America host known for his sometimes lacerating, self-exposing rants, was in its early days, and Mr. Glass did a little riff on “technophobia”—a fairly typical, if amusingly delivered, comedic bit.</p>
<p>By January 2012, however, Mr. Glass had a weightier issue to get off his chest—and the podcast was ready to accommodate him. <a href="http://www.wtfpod.com/podcast/episodes/episode_245_-_todd_glass">Slowly, over the course of the episode</a>,  he came out of the closet. As fans heard the interview on iTunes or apps like Stitcher Smart Radio, the episode caught fire within the comedy community, not least because it came in the form of an extensive Socratic dialogue as opposed to a press release to <em>Out </em>or a quick-hit on late-night talk.</p>
<p>Longtime listeners of <em>WTF </em>are accustomed to hearing revealing conversations with figures they recognize from TV or local comedy clubs (or not at all), but for the uninitiated, Mr. Glass’s description of his vacillation over whether to reveal his sexuality, his anger at antigay rhetoric and the fear and anxiety he experienced throughout his life was exhilarating. “I didn’t get one piece of negative feedback—not even a Bible verse,” said Mr. Glass of the torrent of warm vibes listeners sent his way. For both its intimacy and its inside-baseball focus, his coming-out was a conversation that could have happened only on a podcast.</p>
<p>Asked why he’d chosen the forum for his big reveal, Mr. Glass noted that a bigger venue—David Letterman’s show, for instance—wouldn’t have had the kind of time to really explore the issue, whereas on <em>WTF</em>, “I knew we’d have an hour and a half. And I wanted it to be this person who could lead me down the path comfortably.” Mr. Glass and Mr. Maron had been casual friends for decades. “Some people have jokingly or seriously said he’s our version of Oprah today,” Mr. Glass noted. “You get into the atmosphere there and you’re comfortable.”</p>
<p>Mr. Glass isn’t joking. Anyone who believes a comedian as successful as, say, <a href="http://wtfpod.libsyn.com/episode-111-louis-ck-part-1">Louis C.K.</a> is imperviously sardonic hasn’t heard him crying over his daughter’s birth on <em>WTF</em>. Mr. Maron, through his twice-weekly interview series, may have drawn more tears than any interviewer since Barbara Walters. “It’s like going on Dick Cavett,” said the comedian and podcast host John Hodgman. “It’s a sign of being taken seriously.”</p>
<p>The show is also, at least in part, responsible for kicking off a movement. Akin to the comedy-club boom of the 1980s, in which every city got its Chuckle Hut, comedy has suddenly become vastly more accessible—or at least, comedians have. Podcasts have given standups a powerful new platform that few seem able to resist. Even <a href="http://www.nerdist.com/2011/08/the-todd-glass-show-1-tom-martin-daniel-kinno/">Mr. Glass recently started his own show</a>.</p>
<p>Unlike Mr. Maron’s show, Mr. Glass’s is oriented toward humorous chat—basically. “Onstage, you have to be funnier than you are preachy,” he said. “That’s the overall rule in standup. People take a journey with you when you podcast.” (It’s not a short journey, either—Mr. Glass’s weekly show can run to two and a half hours.)</p>
<p>“I can be silly, we can go off on a tangent and be quite serious,” he explained. “The format for podcasts is: do whatever you fucking want.”</p>
<p>Mr. Maron felt little of the joy of experimentation when he first began podcasting. “I sort of came to it through desperation,” he said. “I was in a difficult place, career-wise and financially. I was running out of ideas and options. <a href="http://pardcast.com/">Jimmy Pardo </a>was doing one and <a href="http://smodcast.com/">Kevin Smith </a>was doing one. But I didn’t really know much about the medium.”</p>
<p>Episode one of <em>WTF</em> aired in September 2009. After Air America Radio shut down a few months later (“They’d run out of money for the fourth or fifth time, or whatever”), Mr. Maron kept his office security card and snuck into the studio to tape his own show. “We were taking guests up the freight elevator,” he said. These days, having long since ponied up for broadcast mics and an analog mixer, he records using the program GarageBand—in his garage.</p>
<p>“It’s the Wild West, it’s a tabula rasa,” Mr. Maron said.</p>
<p>“Marc only makes legendary episodes,” said Mr. Hodgman. “Marc is an exemplar of the form in the sense that this low-barrier-to-entry broadcast format gives voice not just to a lot of people in the comedy field but to the different kinds of voices and skills comedians can use.”<!--nextpage--></p>
<p>Mr. Hodgman, for his part, has been hosting the podcast <em><a href="http://www.maximumfun.org/shows/judge-john-hodgman">Judge John Hodgman </a></em>since 2010, a version of which has since begun running, in miniature, in <em>The New York Times Magazine</em>. “I have a natural affinity for telling people why they are wrong,” he said.</p>
<p>The boom in available comedy material online—so many niches available for fans of judgmental comics and sketch comics and <a href="http://www.adamcarolla.com/">former stars of <em>The Man Show</em></a>!—and the conversion of so many “comedy fans” into “comedy geeks” has built an audience for what might be called meta-comedy. Mr. Maron’s show, for instance, is about funny people—and their desperate attempts to meet their recommended daily allowances of attention and validation—but is rarely funny itself. Indeed, the host’s ongoing battle with addiction is one of the show’s leitmotifs. “I’m not sure you could call it a comedy podcast,” said Mr. Hodgman. “It’s not hilarious when you’re weeping.”</p>
<p>While Mr. Maron produces <em>WTF</em> independently, not everyone is lucky enough to have the sponsorship of <a href="http://adamandeve.com">Adamandeve.com </a>and <a href="http://stamps.com">Stamps.com</a>. One alternative is the <a href="http://www.earwolf.com">Earwolf podcast network</a>. Founded by Scott Aukerman, whose own show is the sketch-comedy oriented <em><a href="http://www.earwolf.com/show/comedy-bang-bang-podcast/">Comedy Bang Bang</a></em>, it currently is home to shows as diverse as <em><a href="http://www.earwolf.com/show/ronna-beverly/">Ronna and Beverly</a></em>, featuring two fictional Jewish relationship experts; the comic “noir serial” <em><a href="http://www.earwolf.com/show/mike-detective/">Mike Detective</a></em>; and the comedy-and-sports-oriented <em><a href="http://www.earwolf.com/show/sklarbro-country/">Sklarbro Country</a></em>.</p>
<p>“There’s a trick with two different kind of shows,” Mr. Aukerman said, “some where you’re giving people what you know they want and some where you’re giving people what you think they should want.” The ads sold on the most popular shows (as well as <a href="http://www.fastcompany.com/1767904/new-comedy-podcast-channels-commitphobes?partner=rss">a recent partnership with the moneyed website Funny or Die</a>) help buoy the more experimental programming, from “superlong shows, two hours, to two-minute daily shows” to something truly off-beat: shows hosted by non-white-males, still a rarity and something Mr. Aukerman is eager to encourage. (Mr. Maron’s <em>WTF</em> features ads, and paid users get full access to the archives; Jimmy Pardo’s <em>Never Not Funny</em> is for paying subscribers only.)</p>
<p>Interestingly, Mr. Aukerman’s improv-based show faces resistance from listeners who have come to prefer their comedy podcasts to take a more serious approach. “I get a lot of random criticism from wonderful people on the Internet,” he admitted. “They say stuff like, Why would you have Patton Oswalt on your show and not interview him? Because Patton Oswalt is not interested in that! He loves coming on my show and doing comedy.</p>
<p>“I have to overcome that with new listeners. They’re unaccustomed to hearing something other than a comedian baring his soul.”</p>
<p>That said, with endless “airtime,” there’s room for everyone. “It seems like there’s too much content,” admitted Pete Holmes, the host of <em><a href="http://www.nerdist.com/podcast/you-made-it-weird/">You Made It Weird</a></em>, “but you can put out such a specific product that the podcast web can meet a listener’s needs more specifically than a TV network ever could.” (Despite this, Mr. Holmes calls his show “a really big ripoff of Marc Maron’s show.”)</p>
<p>“It’s like any relationship—like a friendship or a romantic relationship,” said Mr. Holmes. “You can become somebody that shows up in their lives every week. That fosters a kind of intimacy with your fans.”</p>
<p>Whatever happened to “killing”?</p>
<p>Perhaps it’s a two-way street—comedians want to address their fans, and fans are willing to listen to favorite comics experiment with the form. “If a show didn’t go as good as I thought it did, I’m happy—that’s the learning process,” said Mr. Glass. “And the people who listen, they’re O.K. to take the journey. They say, ‘We love him, we’ll stay together.’” Subscribers are different from ticket-buyers at a random tour stop—to maintain loyalty, comedians are practically friending their fans.</p>
<p>Recently, the podcast host Julie Klausner, of <em><a href="http://howwasyourweek.libsyn.com/">How Was Your Week</a></em>, held a live taping of her show in Gowanus, Brooklyn. The room was at capacity; the NPR host Ira Glass and <a href="http://www.observer.com/2012/02/sandra-bernhard-rips-into-andy-cohen-her-bravo-boss/">the comedian Sandra Bernhard</a> appeared as guests. The audience was intimately familiar with Ms. Klausner’s material—one woman had submitted a slam-poetry piece based on the show to win a free ticket. Her bonus prize was sitting next to Ira Glass. After the NPR host talked about his favorite snacks, the musician Ted Leo duetted with Ms. Klausner on Avril Lavigne’s “Complicated.” Representatives from the two snack brands sponsoring the evening faced off over whether Pretzel Crisps or Peanut Chews were better.</p>
<p>“I’m always flattered when people listen to my show and I never assume that they do,” Ms. Klausner said later. “There’s people who know me from Twitter, or who know my other work, but when they listen to the podcast, I’m like, oh. You know me.”</p>
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<p>Recently, Los Angeles-based comedian Todd Glass decided to appear on the podcast hosted by fellow comic Marc Maron—and hilarity did not ensue.</p>
<p>When Mr. Glass first appeared on Mr. Maron’s show, <em>WTF</em>, in 2009, the program, in which Mr. Maron, the alt-comedy fixture and former Air America host known for his sometimes lacerating, self-exposing rants, was in its early days, and Mr. Glass did a little riff on “technophobia”—a fairly typical, if amusingly delivered, comedic bit.</p>
<p>By January 2012, however, Mr. Glass had a weightier issue to get off his chest—and the podcast was ready to accommodate him. <a href="http://www.wtfpod.com/podcast/episodes/episode_245_-_todd_glass">Slowly, over the course of the episode</a>,  he came out of the closet. As fans heard the interview on iTunes or apps like Stitcher Smart Radio, the episode caught fire within the comedy community, not least because it came in the form of an extensive Socratic dialogue as opposed to a press release to <em>Out </em>or a quick-hit on late-night talk.</p>
<p>Longtime listeners of <em>WTF </em>are accustomed to hearing revealing conversations with figures they recognize from TV or local comedy clubs (or not at all), but for the uninitiated, Mr. Glass’s description of his vacillation over whether to reveal his sexuality, his anger at antigay rhetoric and the fear and anxiety he experienced throughout his life was exhilarating. “I didn’t get one piece of negative feedback—not even a Bible verse,” said Mr. Glass of the torrent of warm vibes listeners sent his way. For both its intimacy and its inside-baseball focus, his coming-out was a conversation that could have happened only on a podcast.</p>
<p>Asked why he’d chosen the forum for his big reveal, Mr. Glass noted that a bigger venue—David Letterman’s show, for instance—wouldn’t have had the kind of time to really explore the issue, whereas on <em>WTF</em>, “I knew we’d have an hour and a half. And I wanted it to be this person who could lead me down the path comfortably.” Mr. Glass and Mr. Maron had been casual friends for decades. “Some people have jokingly or seriously said he’s our version of Oprah today,” Mr. Glass noted. “You get into the atmosphere there and you’re comfortable.”</p>
<p>Mr. Glass isn’t joking. Anyone who believes a comedian as successful as, say, <a href="http://wtfpod.libsyn.com/episode-111-louis-ck-part-1">Louis C.K.</a> is imperviously sardonic hasn’t heard him crying over his daughter’s birth on <em>WTF</em>. Mr. Maron, through his twice-weekly interview series, may have drawn more tears than any interviewer since Barbara Walters. “It’s like going on Dick Cavett,” said the comedian and podcast host John Hodgman. “It’s a sign of being taken seriously.”</p>
<p>The show is also, at least in part, responsible for kicking off a movement. Akin to the comedy-club boom of the 1980s, in which every city got its Chuckle Hut, comedy has suddenly become vastly more accessible—or at least, comedians have. Podcasts have given standups a powerful new platform that few seem able to resist. Even <a href="http://www.nerdist.com/2011/08/the-todd-glass-show-1-tom-martin-daniel-kinno/">Mr. Glass recently started his own show</a>.</p>
<p>Unlike Mr. Maron’s show, Mr. Glass’s is oriented toward humorous chat—basically. “Onstage, you have to be funnier than you are preachy,” he said. “That’s the overall rule in standup. People take a journey with you when you podcast.” (It’s not a short journey, either—Mr. Glass’s weekly show can run to two and a half hours.)</p>
<p>“I can be silly, we can go off on a tangent and be quite serious,” he explained. “The format for podcasts is: do whatever you fucking want.”</p>
<p>Mr. Maron felt little of the joy of experimentation when he first began podcasting. “I sort of came to it through desperation,” he said. “I was in a difficult place, career-wise and financially. I was running out of ideas and options. <a href="http://pardcast.com/">Jimmy Pardo </a>was doing one and <a href="http://smodcast.com/">Kevin Smith </a>was doing one. But I didn’t really know much about the medium.”</p>
<p>Episode one of <em>WTF</em> aired in September 2009. After Air America Radio shut down a few months later (“They’d run out of money for the fourth or fifth time, or whatever”), Mr. Maron kept his office security card and snuck into the studio to tape his own show. “We were taking guests up the freight elevator,” he said. These days, having long since ponied up for broadcast mics and an analog mixer, he records using the program GarageBand—in his garage.</p>
<p>“It’s the Wild West, it’s a tabula rasa,” Mr. Maron said.</p>
<p>“Marc only makes legendary episodes,” said Mr. Hodgman. “Marc is an exemplar of the form in the sense that this low-barrier-to-entry broadcast format gives voice not just to a lot of people in the comedy field but to the different kinds of voices and skills comedians can use.”<!--nextpage--></p>
<p>Mr. Hodgman, for his part, has been hosting the podcast <em><a href="http://www.maximumfun.org/shows/judge-john-hodgman">Judge John Hodgman </a></em>since 2010, a version of which has since begun running, in miniature, in <em>The New York Times Magazine</em>. “I have a natural affinity for telling people why they are wrong,” he said.</p>
<p>The boom in available comedy material online—so many niches available for fans of judgmental comics and sketch comics and <a href="http://www.adamcarolla.com/">former stars of <em>The Man Show</em></a>!—and the conversion of so many “comedy fans” into “comedy geeks” has built an audience for what might be called meta-comedy. Mr. Maron’s show, for instance, is about funny people—and their desperate attempts to meet their recommended daily allowances of attention and validation—but is rarely funny itself. Indeed, the host’s ongoing battle with addiction is one of the show’s leitmotifs. “I’m not sure you could call it a comedy podcast,” said Mr. Hodgman. “It’s not hilarious when you’re weeping.”</p>
<p>While Mr. Maron produces <em>WTF</em> independently, not everyone is lucky enough to have the sponsorship of <a href="http://adamandeve.com">Adamandeve.com </a>and <a href="http://stamps.com">Stamps.com</a>. One alternative is the <a href="http://www.earwolf.com">Earwolf podcast network</a>. Founded by Scott Aukerman, whose own show is the sketch-comedy oriented <em><a href="http://www.earwolf.com/show/comedy-bang-bang-podcast/">Comedy Bang Bang</a></em>, it currently is home to shows as diverse as <em><a href="http://www.earwolf.com/show/ronna-beverly/">Ronna and Beverly</a></em>, featuring two fictional Jewish relationship experts; the comic “noir serial” <em><a href="http://www.earwolf.com/show/mike-detective/">Mike Detective</a></em>; and the comedy-and-sports-oriented <em><a href="http://www.earwolf.com/show/sklarbro-country/">Sklarbro Country</a></em>.</p>
<p>“There’s a trick with two different kind of shows,” Mr. Aukerman said, “some where you’re giving people what you know they want and some where you’re giving people what you think they should want.” The ads sold on the most popular shows (as well as <a href="http://www.fastcompany.com/1767904/new-comedy-podcast-channels-commitphobes?partner=rss">a recent partnership with the moneyed website Funny or Die</a>) help buoy the more experimental programming, from “superlong shows, two hours, to two-minute daily shows” to something truly off-beat: shows hosted by non-white-males, still a rarity and something Mr. Aukerman is eager to encourage. (Mr. Maron’s <em>WTF</em> features ads, and paid users get full access to the archives; Jimmy Pardo’s <em>Never Not Funny</em> is for paying subscribers only.)</p>
<p>Interestingly, Mr. Aukerman’s improv-based show faces resistance from listeners who have come to prefer their comedy podcasts to take a more serious approach. “I get a lot of random criticism from wonderful people on the Internet,” he admitted. “They say stuff like, Why would you have Patton Oswalt on your show and not interview him? Because Patton Oswalt is not interested in that! He loves coming on my show and doing comedy.</p>
<p>“I have to overcome that with new listeners. They’re unaccustomed to hearing something other than a comedian baring his soul.”</p>
<p>That said, with endless “airtime,” there’s room for everyone. “It seems like there’s too much content,” admitted Pete Holmes, the host of <em><a href="http://www.nerdist.com/podcast/you-made-it-weird/">You Made It Weird</a></em>, “but you can put out such a specific product that the podcast web can meet a listener’s needs more specifically than a TV network ever could.” (Despite this, Mr. Holmes calls his show “a really big ripoff of Marc Maron’s show.”)</p>
<p>“It’s like any relationship—like a friendship or a romantic relationship,” said Mr. Holmes. “You can become somebody that shows up in their lives every week. That fosters a kind of intimacy with your fans.”</p>
<p>Whatever happened to “killing”?</p>
<p>Perhaps it’s a two-way street—comedians want to address their fans, and fans are willing to listen to favorite comics experiment with the form. “If a show didn’t go as good as I thought it did, I’m happy—that’s the learning process,” said Mr. Glass. “And the people who listen, they’re O.K. to take the journey. They say, ‘We love him, we’ll stay together.’” Subscribers are different from ticket-buyers at a random tour stop—to maintain loyalty, comedians are practically friending their fans.</p>
<p>Recently, the podcast host Julie Klausner, of <em><a href="http://howwasyourweek.libsyn.com/">How Was Your Week</a></em>, held a live taping of her show in Gowanus, Brooklyn. The room was at capacity; the NPR host Ira Glass and <a href="http://www.observer.com/2012/02/sandra-bernhard-rips-into-andy-cohen-her-bravo-boss/">the comedian Sandra Bernhard</a> appeared as guests. The audience was intimately familiar with Ms. Klausner’s material—one woman had submitted a slam-poetry piece based on the show to win a free ticket. Her bonus prize was sitting next to Ira Glass. After the NPR host talked about his favorite snacks, the musician Ted Leo duetted with Ms. Klausner on Avril Lavigne’s “Complicated.” Representatives from the two snack brands sponsoring the evening faced off over whether Pretzel Crisps or Peanut Chews were better.</p>
<p>“I’m always flattered when people listen to my show and I never assume that they do,” Ms. Klausner said later. “There’s people who know me from Twitter, or who know my other work, but when they listen to the podcast, I’m like, oh. You know me.”</p>
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		<title>Podcast Picks: Mark Ronson’s &#8216;Authentic Shit&#8217;</title>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.eastvillageradio.com/modules.php?name=evrshow&amp;showid=69">Mark Ronson's Authentic Shit</a>:</p>
<p> So we’ve labeled <a href="http://www.markronson.co.uk/home.html">Mark Ronson</a> a trust fund DJ before but he’s actually good at what he does. He comes from a silver-spoon family (his mom is socialite/writer Ann Dexter-Jones, he’s the stepson of Foreigner’s guitarist Mick Jones and brother to Lindsay Lohan’s party partner, Samantha Ronson, (<a href="http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272616625.shtml">they're suing Perez Hilton btw</a>) and Charlotte Ronson, his designer sis). He honed his skills at dingy Vassar and NYU kid haunts and became a renowned DJ in the ’90s for drawing socialites and rap stars to his downtown party at the now-shuttered club Life. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">He keeps the party alive on <a href="http://www.eastvillageradio.com">East Village Radio</a> every Friday from 8 to 10 p.m. with his Authentic Shit show (<a href="http://www.eastvillageradio.com/modules.php?name=evrshow&amp;showid=69">subscribe to the podcast here</a>). In the tiny, closet-sized EVR booth on 1<sup>st</sup> Avenue, he plays classic hip-hop and R&amp;B with new remixes of the acts he produces including Robbie Williams, Lily Allen and Amy Winehouse. As head honcho at <a href="http://www.allidorecords.com/">Allido Records</a>, he also pimps out tracks for his acts like <a href="http://www.myspace.com/rhymefest">Rhymefest</a> and D.C. rapper <a href="http://www.myspace.com/wale202">Wale</a>, whose summer jam “Ice Cream Girl” was recently featured in <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30_yfwlMjuY">this scene</a> of HBO’s Entourage. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sometimes Mr. Ronson is out of town, touring as a DJ, but even his fill-ins, like <a href="http://www.catchdubs.com/">Nick Catchdubs</a> from Fool’s Gold Records and DJ Ayres and Cosmo Baker of <a href="http://www.itstherub.com/">The Rub</a>, have been making great playlists for pre-Friday night festivities.</p>
<p>Listen to a recent show <a href="http://www.eastvillageradio.com/modules.php?name=evrshow&amp;showid=69">here</a>. Playlist is <a href="http://www.eastvillageradio.com/modules.php?name=evrshow&amp;showid=69">here</a>. </p>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft" src="http://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/markronson.jpg?w=300&h=161" />
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.eastvillageradio.com/modules.php?name=evrshow&amp;showid=69">Mark Ronson's Authentic Shit</a>:</p>
<p> So we’ve labeled <a href="http://www.markronson.co.uk/home.html">Mark Ronson</a> a trust fund DJ before but he’s actually good at what he does. He comes from a silver-spoon family (his mom is socialite/writer Ann Dexter-Jones, he’s the stepson of Foreigner’s guitarist Mick Jones and brother to Lindsay Lohan’s party partner, Samantha Ronson, (<a href="http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272616625.shtml">they're suing Perez Hilton btw</a>) and Charlotte Ronson, his designer sis). He honed his skills at dingy Vassar and NYU kid haunts and became a renowned DJ in the ’90s for drawing socialites and rap stars to his downtown party at the now-shuttered club Life. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">He keeps the party alive on <a href="http://www.eastvillageradio.com">East Village Radio</a> every Friday from 8 to 10 p.m. with his Authentic Shit show (<a href="http://www.eastvillageradio.com/modules.php?name=evrshow&amp;showid=69">subscribe to the podcast here</a>). In the tiny, closet-sized EVR booth on 1<sup>st</sup> Avenue, he plays classic hip-hop and R&amp;B with new remixes of the acts he produces including Robbie Williams, Lily Allen and Amy Winehouse. As head honcho at <a href="http://www.allidorecords.com/">Allido Records</a>, he also pimps out tracks for his acts like <a href="http://www.myspace.com/rhymefest">Rhymefest</a> and D.C. rapper <a href="http://www.myspace.com/wale202">Wale</a>, whose summer jam “Ice Cream Girl” was recently featured in <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30_yfwlMjuY">this scene</a> of HBO’s Entourage. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sometimes Mr. Ronson is out of town, touring as a DJ, but even his fill-ins, like <a href="http://www.catchdubs.com/">Nick Catchdubs</a> from Fool’s Gold Records and DJ Ayres and Cosmo Baker of <a href="http://www.itstherub.com/">The Rub</a>, have been making great playlists for pre-Friday night festivities.</p>
<p>Listen to a recent show <a href="http://www.eastvillageradio.com/modules.php?name=evrshow&amp;showid=69">here</a>. Playlist is <a href="http://www.eastvillageradio.com/modules.php?name=evrshow&amp;showid=69">here</a>. </p>
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